Carl explores the tension in the creative process, calling it "Dancing With Dragons." For artists, entrepreneurs, or anyone seeking change, the gap between the ideal and reality can be both challenging and awe-inspiring. Carl shares how this tension is a vital part of the creative journey, not a source of frustration. He encourages listeners to embrace this dance, celebrating when vision aligns with reality and finding joy in the pursuit itself. How do you handle the tension in your creative process?

Carl has received many requests for coaching or consulting, but he doesn’t offer those services. Instead, he has created something different: Dancing With Dragons. This experience involves spending a day together in Park City, Utah, with a loose structure of time outside, time around a table, and time around a fire. It is open to individuals, couples, and teams. For more information, go to https://www.dancingwithdragons.com/.