The Stacking Benjamins Show

The Stacking Benjamins Show

By Joe Saul-Sehy and Josh ‘OG’ Bannerman, CFPBusinessEducationInvesting
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  • 8 Tricky Money Decisions: When to Cosign, Stretch, Take the Job, or Walk Away SB1917

    Every money decision comes with a basement door. Sometimes you go down and find a great deal, and sometimes you should run. Joe Saul-Sehy and OG run a Halloween game show in which the panel rules on eight real-life dilemmas, including a stock that has tripled, a dream house that leaves almost no cash, and a car loan a parent is asked to cosign. The panel disagrees, and the reasoning behind each answer is the useful part.

    Veterans Day Giveaway

    Enter for a chance to win a Solo Stove at stackingbenjamins.com/veterans. Veterans and active duty service members get three entries, and everyone else gets one. If you’re already in the 201 email series, you get an entry too, and you can earn more by referring friends.

    What You’ll Walk Away With

    • What to do when your company stock has grown into a huge slice of your portfolio, and why a gains budget beats waiting for the perfect moment
    • Why optimism about your employer is not the same as a good price on its stock
    • How much house is too much, and why the bank’s limit is not your limit
    • What a thin cash cushion after closing really risks, and when a plan to rebuild it changes the answer
    • How to weigh a bigger paycheck against a boss who keeps losing people, and the airport layover test for judging a future manager
    • Why a tax bracket jump does not cost you more than you earn
    • How to say yes to helping an adult child with a car while keeping the title, insurance, and risk in your own hands
    • Why many people treat family loans as gifts
    • Emergency fund or great credit? Low fixed expenses or great insurance? High savings rate or diversification? High income or financial knowledge? The panel picks sides

    Why This Matters Now

    Big decisions rarely arrive with a clean right answer, and the fear of making an irreversible mistake can stall good choices. Hearing smart people disagree, and explain why, builds your own judgment faster than a rule of thumb does. Year-end is a natural time to look at your concentrated holdings, your housing costs, and your cushion.

    From the Basement

    Doug arrives in a tin foil hat to resist Federal Reserve brainwaves, the panel shows up as a genie villain, a wreath-wearing leaf pile, and an Oktoberfest regular, and Doug’s trivia asks where “I’ll be back” ranks among the greatest movie quotes ever. He also reports that the Terminator spoke very few words in the whole film and that he once lost an argument at The Sizzler over the senior discount on shrimp cocktail. OG explains his Halloween yogurt policy, and a new traveling trophy with an honest inscription makes its debut.

    Resources Mentioned

    • Veterans Day giveaway: enter to win a Solo Stove
    • AFI’s 100 Years...100 Movie Quotes: the list behind Doug’s trivia
    • Afford Anything: a podcast from one of the panelists
    • Personal Finance for Long-Term Investors: a podcast from another panelist


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    1 hr 2 min
  • Why Everyone Needs an Estate Plan (and How to Avoid a Surprise ACA Subsidy Bill) SB1916

    Amy Wilson and her husband did nearly everything right on the road to financial independence, and the one task they kept postponing turned out to matter most. She shares what happened when a sudden loss met an unfinished estate plan, how she rebuilt her financial life on her own, and what she’d want you to do this week. Then Joe Saul-Sehy and OG explain how a change in IRS guidance can turn marketplace premium help into a bill for early retirees and side hustlers, with a quick round of income detective to show what counts.

    What You’ll Walk Away With

    • Why “we’re married, so it all goes to each other” isn’t a plan
    • How beneficiary designations and default rules can pull in different directions across accounts
    • Why your state already has an estate plan for you, and how to find out what it says
    • What mattered, and what didn’t, in the first hours after a loss
    • Whether to do nothing with your money for a while or dive into the details, and how to tell which fits you
    • What it’s like to go from saving to spending overnight, and why a money nerd hired an advisor
    • The small clues that told her an advisor was the right one
    • A simple allowance system that keeps spending steady and leaves room for big plans
    • Why advance premium help is an estimate, not a price guarantee
    • The change that removed the cap on repayments, the income line that can cost you the entire credit, and what to recalculate before year-end

    Why This Matters Now

    Plans get interrupted, and the paperwork we postpone is usually the paperwork that matters most. Year-end is when open enrollment arrives and good intentions pile up, which makes it a natural time to finish the estate documents and recheck your income estimate. If you worry about a mistake you can’t undo, this episode treats both as checklist items you can finish, not worries to carry around.

    From the Basement

    Doug’s trivia is about cacao beans as currency, which leads him to try paying for dinner at The Sizzler with a bag of chocolate chips. Then OG explains his Halloween policy of yogurt only, with a granola exception.

    Resources Mentioned

    • Repayment caps eliminated for excess advance payments of the Premium Tax Credit: IRS guidance on the change
    • Questions and answers on the Premium Tax Credit: IRS answers on how reconciliation works
    • HealthCare.gov: where to update your income estimate with the marketplace
    • Camp FI: in-person gatherings for the financial independence community, where Amy is a regular


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    1 hr 14 min
  • How to Turn Trick-or-Treat Into a Money Lesson (and Choose a Pension Option) SB1915

    How to Turn Trick-or-Treat Into a Money Lesson (and Choose a Pension Option)

    One doorstep each Halloween becomes a lesson in risk, reward, and generosity, and one listener believes it helped him land a job. Chuck Jaffe walks through the cash-or-candy game he’s refined over the years, including this year’s twist, and how to run a version whether you get a hundred trick-or-treaters or six. Then Joe Saul-Sehy and OG take a question from a listener with a military pension: how to weigh the survivor benefit, why the choice can’t be changed later, and what to ask before you sign. It’s a lighthearted start and a practical finish.

    What You’ll Walk Away With

    • The simple cash-or-candy trade that turns a doorstep into a lesson on risk and reward
    • Why kids who never think about money will happily do the math when it’s a game
    • How the game changes every year, including the lottery option and a choice that lets kids give something away
    • How to run a version with a handful of trick-or-treaters and a few envelopes
    • Why the dollar bill is the worst deal on the table, and why plenty of kids still take it
    • How a doorstep wave turned into a jump start on the way to a job interview
    • What a pension survivor option actually means, in plain terms
    • How to compare a reduced pension against buying your own insurance
    • What a “pop-up” provision is, and which questions to ask the pension office about a spouse’s health coverage
    • Why a pension choice deserves far more research than picking a fund

    Why This Matters Now

    Some of the best money lessons are low-stakes enough for a fourth grader, and some of the biggest decisions are high-stakes enough that you only get one try. Both reward thinking early. If you worry about making a choice you can’t undo, or you want to give the kids in your life a calm, fun way to learn about money, this episode covers both ends of that range.

    From the Basement

    The basement debates candy corn versus Kit Kats, while OG volunteers to hand out Greek yogurt to trick-or-treaters. Doug’s trivia introduces a mule named Kevin and an Erie Canal that paid for itself in a year.

    Resources Mentioned

    • Survivor Benefit Plan: Military OneSource’s overview of the military survivor benefit
    • Money Life with Chuck Jaffe: Chuck’s daily podcast, wherever you listen


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    52 min
  • How to Change Your Money Plan When Your Goals Change (Without Starting Over) SB1914

    You build a plan around a goal, the goal changes, and the spreadsheet keeps marching toward the old one. Joe Saul-Sehy and a roundtable of regulars, joined by Financial Bliss Coach Kelley Long, CFP, ask what happens when the house, the career, or the family you saved for stops being the life you want. They play a game of keep it, kill it, or change it, then get practical about the real invoice for changing course: cash runways, taxes, selling while markets are down, and the stubborn pull of sunk costs. You’ll also hear why staying put has a price of its own.

    What You’ll Walk Away With

    • A three-card game (keep it, kill it, change it) applied to a house the kids have outgrown, a plan built around children that no longer applies, and a career plan with a countdown
    • Why people regret never questioning a goal far more than missing it, and what a story from base camp has to do with it
    • How to tell whether you want to stop working or just want out of a job you’ve outgrown, a lot like mistaking thirst for hunger
    • The “invoice” for changing course, and the fixed expenses worth covering for a year while you figure it out
    • A test-drive trick that lets you feel a change before you make it
    • A way to compare a big decision by taking the money out first and asking what you’re really trading
    • What to do when you need cash and your investments are down
    • Why a big tax bill can be worth paying, and what happens when a rule of thumb swallows the reason behind it
    • Sunk cost versus switching cost, and why only one of them is a feeling
    • The “too small blanket” problem, and the flexibility you can build in from the start

    Why This Matters Now

    Most of us spend plenty of energy checking whether we’re on track, and very little asking whether we still want to go where the track leads. If you worry about a change you can’t undo, or you’ve outgrown a plan you built with good intentions, this conversation treats changing your mind as a cost you can plan for. Getting good with money was never about living yesterday’s life more efficiently. It was about having more choices tomorrow.

    From the Basement

    Joe reports that his new tendon came from an Olympian, at his request, and that standing up is now a major athletic event. Doug’s trivia is a cautionary tale about the worst side hustle ever pitched, and the Detroit Lions provide a live demonstration of a plan with an Achilles heel.

    Resources Mentioned

    • Financial Bliss Coach: Kelley Long’s coaching practice, with links to her podcast and book
    • But Who Will Take Care of You When You’re Old? Financial Planning for People Without Kids by Kelley Long: her forthcoming book on planning without children
    • Lynda Gratton: What If You Live to 100? Here’s How to Actually Plan For It: our conversation on the hundred-year life


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    1 hr 13 min
  • Wharton’s Corinne Low on How to Get More Life Out of Your Money, Time, and Career SB1913

    Most of us are optimizing a number, whether it’s a retirement balance or a job title, and almost never stop to ask what it’s for. Wharton economist Corinne Low measures how people really trade time, money, and love, and she has a short exercise that shows how little of your ideal life depends on that number. Joe Saul-Sehy and guest co-host Anna Allem, CFP, put her ideas to work on careers, partnerships, and the awkward conversations in between. You’ll hear why a house can act as insurance in a marriage, why your job won’t love you back, and how to walk into a hard conversation holding real leverage.

    What You’ll Walk Away With

    • A two-minute exercise that shows what your money is actually for
    • Why almost nobody in that picture is working long weeks, and what that says about your calendar
    • What economists mean by “utility,” and why it’s richer than happiness
    • The case for “having it almost,” and why dropping perfect can raise satisfaction
    • BATNA, a negotiation term worth knowing, and how to build yours before a hard conversation at work or at home
    • The coin flip study: why people nudged out of a stuck situation ended up happier
    • Why buying a home can act as insurance in a partnership, and who that lets take a step back
    • Why your job is a tool for converting time into money, and why that’s good news
    • Quick-fire answers on splitting bills 50/50, who gets the last word on big purchases, and whether prenups are only for the wealthy
    • One thing to put on your calendar this week that makes you richer without earning a dollar

    Why This Matters Now

    Most of us are working hard toward a finish line we’ve never described out loud. That makes it easy to keep climbing, keep saving, and keep wondering why the finish line keeps moving. If you worry about making a move you can’t undo, or you feel like everyone else got a rulebook you missed, this conversation is a friendly way to decide what you’re building before you build more of it.

    From the Basement

    Doug reveals that Mrs. Neighbor Doug exists, which stuns everyone in mom’s basement, and then explains why Joe’s mom’s negotiating style involves a threat to cancel the shrimp appetizer at The Sizzler. Joe also shares a story about a rare Venetian grape that only thrives because of stress.

    Resources Mentioned

    • Corinne Low at Wharton: faculty page with her research
    • Having It All: What Data Tells Us About Women’s Lives and Getting the Most Out of Yours: Corinne Low’s book, in paperback
    • “Collateralized Marriage” and “Winning the Bread and Baking It Too”: two of her research papers discussed in the interview


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    1 hr 14 min
  • Year-End Money Moves: Student Loan Savings, Roth Conversions, and Disability Insurance SB1912

    Some of the best money moves of the year come with a deadline most people never notice. A student loan rate can drop by a full percentage point with one setup step. A window may be open to move retirement money with little or no tax. A gap in your income protection can sit unnoticed until a claim gets denied. Joe Saul-Sehy and guest co-host Anna Allem, CFP, sort the urgent from the merely interesting, using a caller’s real insurance dilemma, a family college decision, and a ringside look at the market’s worst Mondays. It takes a free hour before the calendar flips and no finance degree.

    What You’ll Walk Away With

    • The deadline that got pushed back, and the one setup step that trims a student loan rate by a full point
    • Why one point off a rate is a bigger win than it sounds
    • What to check first if your repayment plan changed without you doing anything
    • A simple way to show a student what a college choice will cost after graduation, using real salary data
    • The question one family asked a kid before agreeing to the pricier school
    • Why a year-end Roth conversion deserves a look from some savers, and the Medicare premium surprise to understand before you try it
    • What an insurer does when a condition is already on your record, and why shopping around won’t change it
    • How to map the “crater” a lost income would leave, and when that math says you can skip the policy
    • The employer route that can quietly solve a coverage problem
    • Which of three famous Black Mondays hit hardest, and when a mutual fund trade really happens
    • A starting point for someone new to saving, military families included, that begins small

    Why This Matters Now

    Year-end is when quiet deadlines pile up and good intentions slip. You don’t need to master everything on the list. You need to know which items are time-sensitive, which can wait, and which you can cross off. If you worry about making a move you can’t undo, or feel behind because you haven’t looked at your plan lately, this is a low-pressure way to catch up.

    From the Basement

    Doug turns the trivia into a title bout, with boxing legends and a bowl of queso that did not survive the match. He also makes a Trans Am joke that nobody else in mom’s basement gets.

    Resources Mentioned

    • Education Department Extends 1% Student Loan Auto-Pay Cut: The College Investor on the extended deadline
    • Stacking Benjamins Guides: HR and benefits, college planning, and taxes
    • Occupational Outlook Handbook: Bureau of Labor Statistics salary and job data for comparing majors
    • The MILMO Show: Lacey Langford’s podcast on money for military families
    • Get a Financial Life by Beth Kobliner and The Simple Path to Wealth by JL Collins: the two books recommended for new savers
    • Ask a question for the show


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    1 hr 2 min
  • Harvard’s Robert Waldinger on What to Spend Your Money and Time On to Be Happier SB1910

    Ask a room of young adults what they want most from life and about eight in ten will say “get rich.” The longest scientific study of adult life, now following the children of its original participants, found something different about what pays off. Dr. Robert Waldinger leads the Harvard Study of Adult Development, and he explains why one kind of spending keeps making people happier long after a flashy purchase fades, why career achievement doesn’t predict a good life, and the habit he now treats the way he treats the gym. Along the way come a rundown of what SECURE 2.0 changed and a listener question about saving for retirement from overseas.

    What You’ll Walk Away With

    • What a generation named as its top life goal, and what the data says about chasing it
    • The kind of discretionary spending that keeps paying off in happiness, and the kind that doesn’t
    • Where money really moves the needle on wellbeing, and the point where it stops
    • Why “happiness” is the wrong target, and what the researcher measures instead
    • What a couple from one of Boston’s poorest neighborhoods can teach about a rich life
    • Why introverts aren’t at a disadvantage, and whether purposeful friendships beat casual ones
    • The subway experiment: why strangers who were told to talk ended up happier than they predicted
    • “Social fitness”: the weekly habit that works like exercise
    • A quick gratitude exercise for a bad mood, built around one question: what if I hadn’t had this?
    • Why money you’ve set aside is retirement money even if the account doesn’t say so


    Why This Matters Now

    Most of us keep score with a number. Waldinger’s research points to a more useful scoreboard: who shows up when it matters and whether your days have a purpose. If you’re saving diligently and quietly wondering whether you’re chasing the wrong things, or you feel behind every time you scroll past someone else’s highlight reel, this is permission to build the plan and the life at the same time, not one after the other.

    From the Basement

    This one comes out of the basement vault for Greatest Hits week. Doug’s trivia is about the first photograph ever taken of a person, a Paris street so busy that only two men holding still, a customer and a shoe shiner, made it into the picture. OG is also accused of being a curmudgeon, and he does not enjoy it.

    Resources Mentioned

    • Robert Waldinger: Dr. Waldinger’s site and TEDx talk
    • The Good Life: Lessons from the World’s Longest Scientific Study of Happiness: the book by Waldinger and Marc Schulz
    • Lifespan Research Foundation: the nonprofit Waldinger co-founded, with more on the study


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    1 hr 2 min
  • How to Fix Your 401(k): 25 Moves That Work Even If Your Plan Isn’t Great SB1909

    Most people check their 401(k) the way they check a gas gauge: a glance, a shrug, and back on the road. Joe and OG pop the hood on the whole engine and work through 25 fixes, from a two-minute change to a phone call that could cut real money from your fees. The surprise is how many of them have nothing to do with your employer’s plan. A mediocre 401(k) can still do its job if the rest of your accounts pick up the slack, and the bar for “good enough” is lower than the internet makes it sound.

    What You’ll Walk Away With

    • The one-percent move that takes two minutes, and why nobody ever misses it from a paycheck
    • Why risk tolerance quizzes start at the wrong end, and the math problem that should come first
    • How often to rebalance, and the point where “rebalancing” quietly turns into market timing
    • The way almost everyone sorts their fund list, and why it nudges you into a bad habit
    • How to treat your accounts as one household portfolio when your 401(k) is lackluster
    • Why getting more conservative as retirement nears can cost you years of compounding
    • A rule of thumb for company stock, and why your paycheck and your portfolio shouldn’t share the same risk
    • What to do with an old 401(k) when you change jobs, and the rollover detail that makes the choice less permanent than it feels
    • What to ask your employer about fees and the match, politely and without withholding cupcakes
    • A free tool for checking what your funds really cost

    Why This Matters Now

    Retirement accounts run on autopilot, which is both the feature and the trap. A plan set up years ago can still carry the fees and funds of that year, and the people paid to run it rarely volunteer that you’re overpaying. The good news is that none of this has a deadline, and one deliberate fix a year beats a panic overhaul. If you worry that one overlooked detail has quietly cost you money, this is a calm, checklist-style way to find it.

    From the Basement

    This one comes out of the basement vault for Greatest Hits week, so a stray reference or two may be hiding behind Joe’s mom’s water heater, but the fundamentals have held up. Doug’s trivia involves a founding father and a street sweeper, his chores keep multiplying, and his takeaway is to invest like it’s a Chicago election: early and often.

    Resources Mentioned

    • Morningstar: free fund research on fees and performance versus peers
    • FieldKit Finance: a way to see how all your accounts fit together
    • Heard it the first time? Tell Joe what you changed at [email protected]



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    52 min
  • What the Fed’s Rate Hike Means for Your Money, Plus the Buy Now, Pay Later and Kalshi Traps SB1908

    The Fed just raised rates for the first time in more than three years, and the markets barely flinched. Your mortgage, your CDs, and your next car payment may feel it differently than the headlines suggest. The panel breaks down what a quarter point actually changes, then turns to two newer ways of borrowing against your future self: buy now, pay later apps that run almost entirely on debit cards, and a prediction market that wants Congress to let you borrow money to bet. One episode, three headlines, and one thread running through all of them.

    What You’ll Walk Away With

    • What a quarter-point hike does to a $50,000 car loan (the answer is smaller than you’d guess)
    • Why your mortgage rate follows the 10-year Treasury more than the Fed, and why that distinction matters
    • The three numbers to find in any adjustable rate loan before you decide how much risk it can carry
    • Why waiting for a “return” to the rates of 15 years ago may be the most expensive plan available
    • How “0% interest” buy now, pay later plans make their money, and what a single missed payment costs
    • A simple test for deciding what is worth borrowing against future income and what never is
    • How a $22 billion prediction market argues it isn’t gambling, and the odds it never mentions
    • What the trader data shows about who actually profits on these platforms
    • The meteorite that landed on a $300 car, and how much profit it really made

    Why This Matters Now

    Borrowing has quietly become easier to start and harder to see. A rate move shows up in a payment you might not notice for months, a payment plan splits a purchase into pieces small enough to ignore, and an app turns a market prediction into something that feels like a game. Each one trades future flexibility for something today. If you worry that one overlooked detail could sneak up on you, this is a plain-English look at where those details hide, and which decisions deserve a pause before you click.

    From the Basement

    The year-long trivia race enters its final quarter in a dead heat, and the gap that opens up is smaller than anyone’s confidence about it. The question involves a meteorite, a very old Chevy Malibu, and a lesson about waiting for money to fall from the sky. The show also took three tries to start, so you are hearing the one that worked.

    Resources Mentioned

    • Federal Reserve monetary policy: the source for rate decisions and statements
    • Semafor: Kalshi to allow trading on borrowed funds: the report behind the Kalshi headline
    • Klarna and Affirm: the two buy now, pay later providers discussed
    • Peekskill meteorite: the real story behind today’s trivia
    • Afford Anything: Paula Pant's amazing podcast
    • Personal Finance for Long-Term Investors: Jesse Cramer's incredible show


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    1 hr 5 min

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