If there’s an issue that keeps aspiring early retirees up at night, it’s the dreaded middle-class trap. At just 28 years old, this financially savvy couple is already looking for ways to avoid this issue. Whether you’re just starting your FIRE journey or approaching early retirement, we’ll show you how to do the same in today’s episode!

Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! So far, Leah and Zach Landis are doing everything right. They earn high incomes, they spend very little, and they invest the difference. Well on their way to retiring early, they plan to quit their jobs by age 45 or sooner! But will their current asset allocation get in the way of their big goal? What kind of bridge will they need to tide them over until traditional retirement age? Will having children impact their financial freedom?

Fortunately, Leah and Zach have all kinds of options. Tune in as Scott and Mindy dive into the couple’s budget and discuss their best path forward. Along the way, we’ll debate whether they should pause their 401(k) contributions, double down on brokerage accounts, and deploy their cash savings on their “dream” home!

In This Episode We Cover

Breaking down Leah and Zach’s best path to FIRE by 45 (or sooner!)

The middle-class trap explained and how to avoid (or escape) it

The BEST ways to invest your cash and make it work harder for you

How much you should expect to pay in taxes once you reach retirement

When to stop growing your 401(k) plan (and where to invest instead)

And So Much More!

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(01:05) Leah & Zach’s Money Journey

(08:20) Money Snapshot

(12:27) Buying the “Dream” Home

(18:33) Best Ways to Invest Cash

(26:51) Avoiding the Middle-Class Trap

(36:28) Maxing Out the 401(k) & HSA

(47:06) Don’t Get Trapped!

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The wealthy are using one unique retirement account to build their fortunes tax-free. You may have never heard of it, but knowing about it can change the course of your retirement planning, allowing you to invest in much more than stocks, index funds, and bonds in your retirement accounts. 

We’re talking about making passive real estate income tax-deferred, flipping houses and sheltering the profits for when you retire, or having a rental property portfolio producing massive passive income, all with the tax benefits of your 401(k), IRA, or Roth IRA. 

We’re, of course, talking about the self-directed IRA (SDIRA) and the sizable benefits that come with it. 

To help, John Bowens (Certified IRA Services Professional) from Equity Trust is on the show to share the tax advantages most Americans have zero clue about. Scott starts the interview by coming in hot, throwing out his most significant objections to an SDIRA. We were even surprised by just how many benefits this single account has and how you can use it in ways most people would never assume of a retirement account.

We’re talking about how to buy rental properties IN your retirement accounts (and profit from them tax-free/deferred), whether a self-directed IRA or 401(k) makes the most sense for you, the “material participation” rule that you CANNOT afford to break, and how much this account costs to set up. This is a game-changing account for retirees who want to live a rich life, so do not skip out on it!

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Scott’s biggest objections to the self-directed IRA (is he wrong?)

How to get tax-free/deferred passive income from real estate in your retirement accounts 

The one tax that you MUST know about before investing in an SDIRA 

Can you get a mortgage for a rental property in an SDIRA?

How much an SDIRA costs to set up and keep going (less than you’d think)

And So Much More!

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(16:45) One Tax to Watch Out For

(19:59) Self-Directed 401(k)s vs. IRAs

(27:36) Making $34,000 Tax-Free!

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(35:41) Financing Rentals in an SDIRA

(39:40) SDIRA Fees and Costs

(50:05) Completely Passive Income

(51:56) Active Investing in an SDIRA

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How has Scott achieved so much financial success already in his early 30s? He’s got a secret weapon nobody else has: Virginia Trench! That’s right, the woman behind half of the puns you hear on this podcast is coming on the show! She's sharing her view on Scott’s early (and extreme) frugality, massively successful financial planning dates, goal setting as a couple, prenuptial agreements, and the Trenches’ recent decision to sell a solid chunk of their index fund portfolio. 

Virginia met Scott before he was CEO, before he had a sizable rental portfolio, and before he became one of the internet’s favorite money nerds. Together, they’ve worked hand-in-hand, building a FI lifestyle that fits their family while chasing their own individual dreams, including Virginia becoming a published author with her new book, Our Secrets Were Safe, coming out this summer!

In this episode, we peel back the curtain and get a glimpse into how Scott and Virginia run the Trench household and its finances. What’s the one thing they have trouble not spending on? What is their repeatable process for achieving enormous financial goals? And is Scott secretly the world’s worst/best baker? If you’re a long-time listener, this is an episode you can’t miss!

In This Episode We Cover

The repeatable money date that Scott and Virginia use to keep their family finances in shape

Goal setting as a couple and how to reach seemingly impossible milestones 

Prenuptial agreements and why Scott and Virginia would recommend one for couples

What Virginia thinks about Scott’s recent decision to sell off their index funds 

The one spending problem that Scott and Virginia both admit they struggle with 

And So Much More!

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(321:05) Selling Index Funds

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Teachers aren’t known for their high salaries, so how did this one reach early retirement and FIRE at just 45 years old? Through “aggressive” saving and smart cost-of-living choices, Amy Minkley was able to quit her demanding international teaching job only three years after finding out about the FIRE movement. Now, she spends her days living in paradise and hosting “FI Freedom Retreats” once or twice a year for like-minded FIRE-chasers.

To reach FIRE in your 40s, you must make some strategic moves like Amy. Thankfully, you don’t need to make six figures to retire early in 2025. Throughout Amy’s career, she never entered the “high income” threshold but could still save aggressively, thanks to the perks of teaching at international schools. We’re talking free rent, subsidized travel, and plenty of paid vacation.

But it wasn’t always the dream life that it sounds like. Amy had constant stress and was routinely feeling burned out, forcing her to take multiple sabbaticals, change where she lived, and deal with some of the money trauma that had plagued her past. Now, she’s FIRE, thriving, and living entirely on her terms. You can (and should) do it, too!

In This Episode We Cover

How to reach FIRE in your 40s even if you feel like it’s too “late” for you

Why teachers should look into teaching abroad to save a significant portion of their income

Investing from abroad and what to do when you have little-to-no social security contributions

How much cash you should keep on hand when you’re ready to retire early

Living off the three percent rule (instead of the traditional four percent rule) by moving to low-cost-of-living areas

Why you must take a sabbatical at least once in your working career

And So Much More!

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Is something stopping your FIRE? Today’s guest wants to retire early at 35, but with a shaky budget, extra expenses, and a problematic rental property, her path to early retirement isn’t clear. In today’s episode, we’ll break down her finances and help her get back on track!

Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Sarah earns a great salary and diligently saves for retirement each month. You’d think she’s on pace to leave her W2 job in a few years, but there’s one problem—she has more expenses than the average person. Financially responsible for two extra family members, Sarah pays for their mortgage, food, and lifestyle, all while covering her own expenses!

Does Sarah’s financial situation need a major shake-up? Tune in as Scott and Mindy debate whether it’s time for Sarah to part with a property that’s bleeding money, strategize about when to put it on the market, and discuss what to do with the money from the sale. We’ll also touch on the tough conversations Sarah needs to have with family members if she wants to achieve her retirement goal!

In This Episode We Cover

The three things Sarah must do to achieve her goal of FIRE by 35

How to reach your financial goals despite extra expenses

What to do with a rental property that has negative cash flow

The BEST time to put an investment property on the market

How to budget for future children (family planning 101!)

And So Much More!

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2024 may be long gone, but it’s NOT too late to lower your taxes for the previous year. If you have real estate or retirement accounts, you already hold the key to minimizing your taxable income and owing less to Uncle Sam. But how do you do it? We’re sharing 2024 and 2025 top tax reduction strategies in today’s show with expert CPA and real estate investor Amanda Han!

Do you know about the real estate tax “loophole” that helps everyday investors cut their taxable income by tens of thousands? Got an employer-contributed retirement plan? You could STILL use it to lower your 2024 taxes! And why should you NOT take the standard deduction if you’ve bought a home in the past few years? We’re answering all of these questions so you can keep more of your hard-earned money.

Finally, what audit red flags is Amanda seeing with her clients? There’s one easily avoidable audit trap that MANY Americans are falling into that could take just minutes to circumvent. Should we even be talking about income taxes if President Trump plans to eliminate them? Amanda, Mindy, and Scott are sharing their opinions on whether this will reach fruition.

In This Episode We Cover

How to save on your 2024 tax bill and moves to make before Tax Day 2025 

The easily avoidable audit red flag that Amanda has seen spike lately 

The real estate tax deduction that could save those earning $150K or less tens of thousands

Most commonly missed tax write-offs that many Americans can take but forget about 

Will President Trump abolish income taxes during his second term?

Whether to pay your estimated taxes OR invest instead and take the interest hit 

And So Much More!

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(00:00) Intro

(00:56) You Can STILL Save on 2024 Taxes

(05:54) Lowering Your Taxable Income

(10:27) You Can STILL Contribute for 2024!

(14:22) Estimating Your Taxes

(16:22) Itemizing vs. Standard Deduction

(18:21) Commonly Overlooked Write-offs

(21:41) Audit Red Flags!

(23:06) Will Tax Rates Rise or Fall?

(28:03) Opportunity Zones Have Changed

(31:08) How to Prepare for 2024/2025

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Is a 100% index fund portfolio no longer the FIRE formula? The market has changed, and maybe your portfolio allocation needs to change with it. With index funds at all-time-high prices and price-to-earnings ratios at an eye-watering 29, you might be feeling a bit worried about whether your FIRE will last or you’ll even make it to FIRE in the first place. You’re not crazy; Scott is feeling the same way, too.

Recently, Scott decided to make a move much of the FIRE community would protest—he sold 40% of his index fund portfolio to reallocate to real estate. Why did he do it now, even as a strong index fund believer? On the other hand, why is Mindy sticking with her stock and index fund portfolio, ready to ride out whatever potential market downturn could be coming our way?

Scott explains, in detail, why real estate is a better choice for him at the moment, the reason prudent FIRE chasers should question the conventional wisdom of a 100% index fund portfolio, and why his new rental property could act as a hedge against a significant market downturn. If Scott is selling his index funds, should you? 

In This Episode We Cover

The historical price-to-earnings ratios making index funds a riskier bet 

How holding 100% index funds could throw your FIRE off by a decade

The optimal portfolio for retiring early on the four percent rule 

Is real estate a safer bet than stocks in 2025?

Real estate cash flow vs. selling stocks for income and why one is much easier to actualize 

And So Much More!

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Travel hacking allows you to fly and travel for free, often in luxury, without spending tens of thousands of dollars on flights or hotels. So, how do you do it without managing thirty different credit cards in your wallet? Brian Kelly, AKA The Points Guy, world-renowned travel hacking expert and author of the new book How to Win at Travel, is here to show you as we rapid-fire our top credit card rewards questions at him.

In this show, you’ll learn how to fly to Europe, Asia, and beyond for FREE, even in business class, all by spending the same amount of money you typically would every month. These cards can turn your weekly grocery run into free flights, hotel stays, cashback, and more, plus give you huge perks like airport lounge access, travel protection, and even a credit to spend on your next trip. Love free money? This is how you get it.

Plus, we’re asking The Points Guy what cards he has in HIS wallet, what he spends on which card, and why he does NOT recommend staying loyal to a specific airline, even if you travel often. These tips alone could save you thousands of dollars this year while turning your economy seat into a lie-flat first-class experience. Don’t let your money go to waste; start travel hacking!

In This Episode We Cover

How to travel for free by spending money on groceries, eating out, and business expenses

The Points Guy’s three favorite credit cards that everyone should keep in their wallet

Why you (probably) shouldn’t stay loyal to a specific airline, even if you have their credit card

Why Chase points can get you even MORE free travel than American Express points

Evaluating annual credit card fees and whether a $300+/year credit card is worth it

Best credit cards for renters and those who live a frugal lifestyle (but still want to travel!)

And So Much More!

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(00:00) Intro

(01:39) Travel for FREE!

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(13:48) Annual Fees

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(27:49) Keeping Track of Cards

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Does the four-percent rule actually work? On paper, yes. So why don’t more people put it to the test? Today’s guest retired at forty-seven years old and is living proof that the math really does check out. Stay tuned to find out how!

Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Bobby Beck has done what so many in the FIRE community are seemingly unable to do—he actually retired on the four-percent rule! What’s more? He did it while living in the Bay Area, one of the most expensive markets in the US. What gave him the confidence to leave his job and never look back? While “One More Year Syndrome” keeps many people from retiring early, Bobby’s mantra of “take a year” compelled him to take a leap of faith. Even though his retirement portfolio took a sixteen-percent hit right before he retired, he weathered the storm, and sure enough, the market rebounded!

Now, Bobby lives the life people dream of when they discover FIRE. He has a comfy lifestyle, travels multiple times a year, and only checks his portfolio once a month. If you need the motivation to call time on your career and put your retirement date on the calendar, you don’t want to miss this episode!

In This Episode We Cover

How Bobby and his wife retired on the four-percent rule (at age 47!)

Why the FIRE community overestimates how much they’ll owe in taxes

How to beat “One More Year Syndrome” and actually retire early

Growing your brokerage accounts and cash to avoid the middle-class trap

The portfolio allocation that will give you the confidence to retire

And So Much More!

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(26:45) 100% Stock Portfolio

(34:36) What Does Your Life Cost?

(39:47) The 4% Rule Works!

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Do we focus too much on just one type of wealth? What if the key to a happy life isn’t retiring early, ascending the corporate ladder, or having more money than you know what to do with? Serial entrepreneur Sahil Bloom spent years chasing money, only to find that it didn’t provide happiness—it robbed him of it. Find yourself in the same boat? This episode is for you!

Welcome back to the BiggerPockets Money podcast! Today, Sahil joins the show to discuss the core concepts from his latest book, The 5 Types of Wealth. Many FIRE-focused folks believe that financial wealth unlocks time, social, mental, and physical wealth, but Sahil is living proof that this isn’t the case. In this episode, he shares about his own journey from financial illiteracy to financial independence, the different levers he pulled along the way, and how he was able to dig himself out of a rut that was slowly destroying his life.

Whether you’re stuck on the happiness hamster wheel, burned out at your nine-to-five job, or lacking in any area beyond money, you’re not alone! Sahil will show you the “x factor” that leads to financial freedom, the best and most scalable side hustles to start, and how to transition from your W2 to entrepreneurship!

In This Episode We Cover

The five types of wealth explained (and why you shouldn’t focus on just one!)

The “x factor” that catapults you from a decent living to financial freedom

Why increasing your income is more important than controlling your expenses

The number one thing the FIRE community gets wrong about building wealth

How anyone can start (and scale) their own online business in 2025

Steps every person must take to lay a strong financial foundation

The “safety net” you need when moving from stable W2 income to entrepreneurship

And So Much More!

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(28:09) Structuring His Company

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