We're off on our summer hols, so here's another gem from the Babble archive - our interview with superstar green economist, Kate Raworth, in 2017. Yer Babble's back in September.

What's wrong with economics? EVERYTHING. That's what Dave & Ol found out when they interviewed the brainy & bags of fun 'renegade economist', Kate Raworth.

Kate explained that saving the planet means thinking like a doughnut, that the 21st century needs a new economics, sharpish, and that maybe books can save the world after all.

Music by Dicky Moore from Bearcraft and Dream Themes. Logo by Arthur Stovell.

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