In Episode 87, Ike Eastman sits down for a genuine conversation with Matt Burch of Burch Rodeo and Four Horse Outfitters — a fifth-generation Wyoming rancher, stock contractor, elk steward, and one of the most interesting characters in the rodeo.

From managing 300,000+ acres of prime elk, mule deer, and antelope habitat to raising some of the most respected bucking horses and bulls in the PRCA, Matt gives a rare look behind the gates of ranch life, rodeo culture, and wildlife management. Ike and Matt cover everything from the explosive growth of elk herds on their ground, to the realities of running one of the country's premier bucking-horse programs, to hauling stock across the West, to the legendary New Year's Eve Bucking Ball in Gillette.

They also dig into the conservation mindset that keeps this landscape healthy — selective harvest, habitat stewardship, letting young bulls grow, and why ranchers are the backbone of Wyoming wildlife. If you love hunting, rodeo, ranch stories, Western grit, or just honest conversations with real people, Episode 87 is a must-listen.

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