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Welcome back to Lez Hang Out, the podcast that is begging for Britney Spears to release the non-binary edition of “I’m Not A Girl, Not Yet A Woman”. 

This week, co-hosts Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with non-binary actor Robyn Holdaway (@robynholdaway) who you may recognize as Layla from Netflix’s Sex Education. Robyn is a prolific voice actor, as well as an educational creator on TikTok where they make videos with their wife about everything from exploring gender and sexuality to navigating physical and mental health challenges. 

We talk with Robyn about LGBTQ+ representation across media, the differences between realistic/accurate representation and idealistic representation, and what it means to actually become the representation they wish they’d seen when they were younger. In examining the intersection of sapphic and non-binary identities, Robyn discusses the (unfortunately unsurprising) amount of backlash they’ve received online for explaining the meanings of words like ‘sapphic’ using gender-inclusive (and completely accurate) language. From there Robyn dives into explaining their non-binary identity and why their marriage doesn’t feel particularly ‘sapphic’ due to Robyn’s “Gomez Addam’s”-style masculinity, and we consider our own gender identities– concluding that Leigh’s gender is “Tiny Dad Mom” and Ellie’s is “Rainbow Unicorn Overalls”. 

Give us your own answers to our Q & Gay on Instagram and follow along on Facebook, TikTok, and BlueSky @lezhangoutpod. Email us @[email protected]. Connect with us individually: Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster).

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