It's hard to find the right people to go with...but it's worth it! Expert Devin Ashby from famed Youtube Channel Backcountry Exposure joins the show to share some of his experiences with different folk on the trail as well as the dos and don'ts of setting up a group trip. Derek and Carl come up with their own list of ways to find the right people to backpack with. Also, Derek has the most awkward response to a listener comment...maybe ever!

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