Backpacker Radio

In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Dr. Courtney Conley. Dr. Conley is an internationally renowned foot and gait specialist, founder and creator of Gait Happens, and chiropractic physician who specializes in foot and gait mechanics. We chat all things related to foot health related to long-distance backpacking, including what to look for in footwear and what characteristics to avoid, how to best prepare your feet for a successful hike, and preventing and treating common foot injuries- including unconventional exercises to help you accomplish this. In a nutshell, Dr. Conley is a foot wizard and you will learn a great deal about setting your feet up for success on trail.

We wrap the show with backpacking items to ditch to lower your base weight, what vegetable we would be, the triple crown of things that are true, but we're not buying it, and a one-minute gear review of a trail runner that's been gaining a lot of traction in the world of thru-hiking.

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Interview with Dr. Courtney Conley

• Gait Happens Website (Backpacker Radio listeners get 10% off consults, classes, and products)

Time stamps & Questions

00:04:20 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon, suggest a guest for PCT Days, and apply for the Trek’s full time position!

00:07:35 - Introducing Dr. Conley

00:08:40 - How did you decide to specialize in gait?

00:10:25 - How do you analyze people walking?

00:12:41 - What’s the easiest gait problem to spot in the wild?

00:13:30 - If you could change one thing about everyone to improve their feet, what would it be?

00:16:52 - Discussion about shoe cushioning

00:18:10 - Discussion about walking barefoot

00:20:00 - In what circumstances would you recommend more cushion?

00:21:40 - Discussion about wide toe boxes

00:22:33 - What other brands have shoes that include your recommendations?

00:23:43 - Discussion about heel-toe drop

00:25:00 - Should everyone be striving to use a zero drop shoe?

00:28:30 - Discussion about toe strength

00:29:30 - How should someone build foot strength in preparation for a thru-hike?

00:32:30 - Who are your primary patients?

00:33:55 - Are achilles tears becoming more common and how can they be prevented?

00:36:14 - Discussion about plyometrics

00:38:20 - Where does more traditional strength training fit into foot strength?

00:41:15 - What’s your view on toe socks?

00:42:30 - What can someone do with their kids to ensure they have strong feet?

00:46:03 - Would you ever recommend hiking boots?

00:50:38 - What are the most common issues you work with in backpackers?

00:53:29 - Can it be harmful to power through without an orthotic?

00:54:53 - What workouts should people do to prevent plantar fasciitis?

00:57:37 - Once you notice plantar fasciitis, what should you do?

01:00:00 - How can people help their feet recover?

01:06:10 - Discussion about healing from ankle sprains

01:06:45 - Discussion about stress fractures

01:08:51 - Can a weak foot lead to knee or hip injuries?

01:14:50 - Discussion about optimal shoes for running

01:17:20 - What do you wear for running?

01:17:50 - Do you have recommendations for long distance hiking shoes?

01:19:45 - Do you have recommendations for general foot ache?

01:23:34 - Any other product recommendations?

01:24:30 - Anything else we should have asked you?

01:29:91 - Is it bad if your foot is flat or you have a collapsed arch?

01:31:41 - What’s your recommended regimen for going from a 5 millimeter drop to a 0 drop?

01:33:00 - Do you work with patients remotely?

01:35:05 - Kumo Question: What is the cheesiest pickup line you’ve ever heard or used?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: 

• Driftless Hiking Trail: New Funding Package Is Big Win for Minnesota Long Trail by Kelly Floro
• Peg Leg: 7 Gear Items I Ditched To Cut My Base Weight in Half by Peg Leg

QOTD:  If you were a vegetable, what vegetable would you be?  

Triple Crown of things that are true, but I’m not buying it

One-Minute Gear Review

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Helinox, we are joined by Mary "Badass" Anderson. Never has a trail name been more fitting, Mary is the most badass hiker you've likely never heard of. With nearly 19,000 miles under her feet spanning six decades, with her first thru-hike taking place in 1981, Mary has not slowed down with her adventurous ways, as she swung by the studio on her to the Pacific Northwest Trail. Some of the highlights from today's interview include a wild winter SOBO thru-hike of the AT in 1985, just a handful of months after a major back surgery where her doctor told her to give up hiking. She followed her AT SOBO winter hike by immediately hopping over to the PCT, where she battled even more snow, and killed and ate a rattlesnake. Other feats include hiking all of the 4,000 footers in New England with her young son in the 90s, completing the CDT after hitting a new low in 2020, and now she's on a quest to finish all of the National Scenic Trails, with only a couple remaining. In short, Mary's story is one of a kind, you will enjoy today's chat.

We wrap the show with a last call for applications for The Trek's new full-time role, a pair of beloved trail angels close their doors after 17 years serving PCT hikers, what music we would listen to on the way to rescue our significant others from a hostage situation, the triple crown of onomatopoeias, and Chaunce is very afraid of grizzlies.

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Interview with Mary “Badass” Anderson

• Mary's Blog

Time stamps & Questions

00:04:40 - Reminders: Apply for the Trek’s full-time role! Support us on Patreon for exclusive content and send us your recommendations for a hiker meetup this fall in NYC.

00:10:34 - Introducing Mary

00:11:40 - How’d you get your trail name?

00:13:14 - How did you initially get started long distance backpacking?

00:15:22 - How did you prepare for backpacking in the 80s?

00:21:05 - What does your baseweight look like today?

00:23:47 - What was the AT like in the 80s?

00:26:56 - Did the AT feel easy compared to the Long Trail?

00:29:02 - What resources did you have for navigation?

00:32:38 - What were your resupplies like?

00:34:00 - Tell us about your back injury and being told never to hike again

00:38:10 - Where does your toughness come from?

00:39:00 - How much of a physical struggle was the AT southbound in winter?

00:40:46 - Where did you experience the worst weather?

00:41:50 - Did you think it might have been a bad idea?

00:45:30 - What did your winter pack and gear look like?

00:49:39 - How did you keep on the trail?

00:50:45 - What about backpacking do you enjoy?

00:52:20 - Did people know what you were doing?

00:54:08 - How did you afford hiking then and now?

00:56:12 - What trail recipes do you make?

00:57:18 - What did it feel like to get to Springer and then start the PCT?

01:02:09 - What was your experience on the PCT like?

01:04:23 - Tell us about your rattlesnake encounter

01:07:00 - Discussion about fear and wildlife encounters

01:10:30 - Did you encounter other thru-hikers on the PCT in 1986?

01:11:10 - How did you enjoy the PCT relative to the AT?

01:14:00 - What was the scariest moment of your backpacking career?

01:17:05 - Tell us about the hiking you did with your son

01:19:55 - Do you have advice for getting your kids outside?

01:21:15 - What was it like hiking the Long Trail with your 8 year old?

01:22:30 - How have you noticed the concept of gender changing in the backcountry?

01:24:08 - Tell us about a bear paying for your cross country road trip

01:26:36 - How did you get back into long distance thru-hiking?

01:29:22 - When did you switch from map and compass to apps?

01:31:32 - Do you long for hikes from decades ago?

01:35:55 - How was the southern half of the CDT in 2020?

01:37:42 - How was your mental state?

01:42:10 - Tell us about staying with people on the Ice Age Trail

01:44:28 - Tell us about the northern half of the CDT

01:49:55 - Tell us about your Vermont bike trip

01:54:16 - Discussion about the role of the internet

01:55:40 - Discussion about the Catamount Cross Country Ski Trail

01:58:50 - How was the Connecticut River Source to Sea Paddle?

02:06:05 - Tell us about the New England Trail

02:10:08 - Discussion about the Natchez Trace Trail

02:12:00 - Discussion about the Potomoc Heritage Trail

02:17:40 - Anything else to share about the Arizona Trail?

02:24:00 - What’s next?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: 

• 17 Years, 8,000 Hikers: Trail Angels Scout and Frodo Retire from PCT Hosting by Arielle Nardizzi
• Professor: The Strategy That’s Helped Me Afford 6 Years, 15K Miles of Thru-Hiking (Jobs, Budgeting Tips, and More) by Carl Stanfield

QOTD: Your wife has been kidnapped and is being held in a location 30 minutes away. You’re driving to rescue her. It’s a warm night and your windows are down. Do you listen to music on the drive there, yes or no?

Triple Crown of onomatopoeias

Power Ranking: Animals You Want to Encounter on Trail

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Helinox, we are joined by Adam Cramer, the founding Executive Director and CEO of Outdoor Alliance, a national coalition of outdoor recreation advocacy groups revitalizing the conservation movement with modern organizing and digital engagement. We learn all about this organization, the work they've done, the conservation movement at large, some interesting data from their recent wildfire report, and much more.

We wrap the show with news of a new feature from iOS 18 which could be a gamechanger for backpackers, the proper ratio of water to corpses, and the triple Crown of AT trail sections you’d take someone you hate.

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Interview with Adam Cramer

• Take action for the EXPLORE Act
• Sign up for action alerts
• Outdoor Alliance Action Center
• Wildfire and Outdoor Recreation in the West

Time stamps & Questions

00:04:00 - Reminders: Apply for the Trek’s new full time position! Suggest a guest for us to interview at PCT Days and support us on Patreon.

00:07:35 - Introducing Adam

00:08:13 - What makes for a good skatepark?

00:09:20 - Tell us about whitewater rafting

00:12:44 - What is Outdoor Alliance and how is it funded?

00:14:00 - How do you pick where the primary attention goes?

00:15:22 - How did you get involved with Outdoor Alliance?

00:20:04 - What are the specific objectives of Outdoor Alliance for this year?

00:22:07 - What does the EXPLORE act include?

00:24:10 - How did the EXPLORE act get passed in the House and what’s the process for the Senate?

00:28:39 - Tell us about the funding

00:31:04 - Do you collaborate with any hunting and fishing organizations?

00:33:06 - Does any of the funding go towards trail maintenance?

00:35:35 - Does it get exhausting to argue the same thing year after year?

00:37:32 - What were some of the findings from the Outdoor Alliance wildfire report?

00:41:50 - Would some regions implement this before others?

00:47:07 - Are you looking to expand how many organizations you work with?

00:47:45 - Kumo Question: What’s the most beautiful place you’ve ever been to?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: No Signal, No Problem: Apple Introduces 2-Way Satellite Messaging for iPhones by James Townsend

Accidental Oopsies

QOTD: People will swim in the ocean, even though there are definitely many corpses in it. People will not swim in a pool with a corpse in it. Humans all have a corpse:water ratio that is acceptable for them to swim in. What is your ratio?

Triple Crown of AT trail sections you’d take someone you hate

Priest Confession (and leave us your own!)

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex and Misty with NavigatorsCrafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair Thirteen Adventures, Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, Tracy ‘Trigger’ Fawns

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek, brought to you by Helinox we are joined by John Mackey. On trail he's known as "Strider", off trail he's known as the co-founder and former CEO of Whole Foods. In addition to being a world-class entrepreneur, Mackey is also a backpacking enthusiast, having hike the AT, PCT, Colorado Trail, and many trails abroad including hikes in the Alps, Patagonia, and more. This is a fun, informative, and wide ranging chat that covers his thru-hike on the AT while being the active Whole Foods CEO, how he saved Gossamer Gear from near extinction, his fascination with UL gear, including his own 6.5 lb base weight, how his love for fantasy novels spilled into his own creative endeavor at the AT's shelter logs, his favorite vegan trail snacks, and much more. We also dive into some non-backpacking talk, including how to build a successful and healthy company culture, his take on labor unions, how psychedelics played a pivotal role in his life, and we learn all about his new book, The Whole Story: Adventures in Love, Life, and Capitalism. Chaunce and I were amped for this chat and it did not disappoint.

We wrap the show with a sneak peak at a new full-time job opening at The Trek, what fact is common knowledge in our field, but unknown to most of the population, the triple crown of Whole Foods foods, and Chaunce's encounter with a ghost.

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Interview with John “Strider” Mackey

• John’s Website
• John's Instagram
• Love Life Website

Time stamps & Questions

00:04:56 - Reminders: Apply for the Trek’s new full time role! Suggest a guest for PCT Days and support us on Patreon for bonus exclusive content!

00:08:15 - Introducing John

00:09:18 - Tell us about investigating your wife’s fridge during your first date

00:12:27 - We Love Love: Tell us about telling her how you felt

00:18:12 - Did that make you more sensitive to how you interact with people?

00:19:15 - What was the origin story of buying Gossamer Gear?

00:23:46 - Are you still involved in the operations of Gossamer Gear?

00:25:15 - How did you get to a baseweight of 6 pounds?

00:26:50 - What are your Big Three?

00:28:00 - How did Ray Jardine’s book insprie you?

00:30:30 - Tell us about getting off trail

00:33:22 - What’s it like to complete the AT and go back to being the CEO of Whole Foods?

00:36:01 - Tell us about your trail register stories

00:39:35 - What was the process for your support vehicle?

00:41:44 - Did other hikers realize you were involved with Whole Foods?

00:43:10 - What impact has psychadelics had on your career?

00:49:33 - What did your parents think when you started Safer Way?

00:54:56 - Was it hard to ask your father to leave the board of Whole Foods?

00:58:50 - What was the community’s reaction to you starting Safer Way?

01:02:18 - How did you mentally keep up with the growth of Whole Foods?

01:03:43 - Were there any books you recommend to entrepreneurs?

01:05:28 - Discussion about listening to books while long distance hiking

01:07:00 - Discussion about what John eats while backpacking

01:10:21 - What kind of cravings do you get while hiking?

01:12:20 - What do you think about alternative meat burgers?

01:13:23 - Can you explain why vegans are against eggs?

01:16:20 - Tell us about hiking with the founder of Celestial Seasonings tea

01:18:58 - What was the origin story of your step-daughter’s trail name?

01:20:09 - What sticky situations have you gotten into on trail?

01:24:00 - Tell us about hiking the PCT

01:27:39 - Tell us about the Via Francigena and Alpe Adria

01:29:50 - What has been your favorite European trail?

01:31:35 - What’s your take on REI’s recent efforts on union busting?

01:36:52 - What tips do you have for building a strong company culture?

01:42:00 - Discussion about merging with Amazon

01:43:18 - What is Jeff Bezos like?

01:43:41 - Zach’s idea for grocery store improvement

01:45:33 - Kumo Question: What is the cheesiest movie you secretly love?

01:48:26 - Tell us about Love Life

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Kristian Morgan Aims for Another Appalachian Trail FKT by Ariella Nardizzi

QOTD: What fact is common knowledge in your field, but unknown to most of the population?

Spooky Thing of the Week

Triple Crown of Whole Foods foods

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.

In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by dermatologist, and my old pal, Dr. Katie Manno. This is a chat I’ve been wanting to highlight on this podcast for years now, and it lived up to my lofty expectations. Dr. Manno gives us a thorough runthrough on all things skin health related and how it pertains to extended time in the outdoors, including why sun protection is so important, the difference between chemical and mineral sunscreens and which is better for the trail, how much and what SPF sunscreen hikers should use, the safety profile of chemical sunscreens and what chemicals specifically to avoid, sun protective clothing and the science behind UPF ratings, vitamin D considerations when using sunscreen and/or sun clothing, what supplements and skin care products she recommends to optimize skin health, and much more. Needless to say, you will come away from this chat smarter than you entered it. 

We wrap the show with why one former guest always uses a bear canister when thru-hiking, we opine on whether donating hair can land you in the slammer, I give an update on my 175-mile lap around Denver, and the triple crown of dog breeds.

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Interview with Katie Manno

• Katie's Practice

Time stamps & Questions

00:04:40 - Reminders: The Trek is hiring a full-time marketing position! Get notified by subscribing to the newsletter. We’re going to Austin and support us on Patreon!

00:08:55 - Introducing Katie

00:09:50 - When did you know you wanted to be a doctor and dermatologist?

00:12:30 - Do you analyze people’s skin when you’re talking to them in the real world?

00:13:40 - What are the risks and consequences of not taking sun protection seriously?

00:15:15 - How does your skin color impact how careful you need to be with sun exposure?

00:17:32 - Can you totally eliminate your risk of skin cancer?

00:18:20 - Is avoiding a sunburn enough?

00:20:10 - What’s the perception of spray tans from the dermatology perspective?

00:21:01 - Is there any reason to be skeptical about the chemicals in sunscreen?

00:25:18 - Do you avoid any chemical sunscreens?

00:26:58 - Discussion about Elta MD and chemical vs. physical sunscreens

00:30:18 - What sunscreen would you recommend to backpackers? 

00:32:23 - Is it true that above an SPF it’s all the same?

00:35:35 - Do you have a preference between sun protective clothing and sunscreen?

00:37:16 - Does body hair protect against sun damage?

00:38:42 - Is something being covered by clothing enough protection?

00:40:30 - Discussion about SPF and UPF ratings

00:42:30 - What are the main factors that determine the UPF rating?

00:44:14 - If someone applies sunscreen perfectly, do they need protective clothing?

00:45:10 - What would you send out a new PCT hiker out with?

00:46:34 - Walk us through what the various types of skin cancer

00:51:12 - Does sunscreen block vitamin D absorption?

00:53:19 - Is there a safe way to get vitamin D through sun exposure without sunscreen?

00:55:12 - What is the UV index?

00:57:27 - What is the correlation between vitamin levels and skin cancers?

01:01:38 - Are there other supplements we should be taking?

01:04:15 - What are the options for people who’ve had a lot of past skin damage?

01:10:44 - Do you have any favorite skin products?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Why I Always Carry a Bear Canister When Thru-Hiking by Moose Juice

QOTD: Can donated hair be used as DNA evidence in a crime?

Denver Orbital Trail Update

Triple Crown of dog breeds

One Star Trail Reviews

One Minute Gear Review

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns.

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.

In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Sawyer Products, we are joined by Katie “Oats” Houston. Oats is a solo thru-hiker, who’s completed the AT, Colorado Trail, Lone Star Trail, and most importantly for today’s recording, the 330-mile Appalachian High Route. We dive deep into the Appalachian High Route’s details, including the standout sections, resupply strategy, the best months to hike it, standout stops in Asheville (where Katie is from), and much more. Katie also shares some tips for breaking out as a freelancer in the outdoor industry, which is especially relevant, as she is also a contributor for The Trek and formerly the head of our social media.

We wrap the show by teasing our next live podcast- hint, it’s not in Denver, Badger has a hilarious and misfortunate wild animal encounter at my house, the triple crown of conversations you don’t get to on trail, and a listener voicemail / tick PSA.

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Interview with Katie “Oats” Houston

• Katie's Instagram
• Katie's Trek Profile
• Katie's Website

Time stamps & Questions

00:03:57 - Reminders: We’re coming to Austin, TX! Support us on Patreon and check out our Backpacker Radio hats in the Trek’s store!

00:08:30 - Introducing Oats

00:09:05 - How did you get into the outdoors and the Trek?

00:10:04 - How did you get your trail name?

00:13:22 - Why did you decide to hike the AT?

00:16:32 - Were you the first person to do the Appalachian High Route?

00:19:06 - Can you give us an overview of the Appalachian High Route?

00:25:22 - What’s the route like elevation-wise?

00:28:20 - What are the towns and resupplies like?

00:30:50 - What do you know about the geology of the southern Appalachians?

00:36:01 - What are the highlights of Asheville?

00:40:00 - Could a first time hiker do the Appalachian High Route?

00:41:45 - What did you use for navigation?

00:43:50 - How did you pick to go clockwise?

00:45:46 - Tell us about the hiking you did in Texas

00:46:51 - Do you have tips about thinking through things while thru-hiking?

00:50:00 - Give us your rating and elevator pitch for the Lone Star Trail

00:55:26 - Discussion about the aggressive dogs on the Lone Star Trail

00:57:00 - Discussion about Big Bend National Park

00:59:05 - What are your tips for breaking into the outdoor industry?

01:04:28 - What are different ways to find outdoor industry jobs?

01:06:40 - Walk us through a typical week at Sawyer

01:08:08 - What are your tips for pricing your skills?

01:13:00 - How much freelance work do you do now?

01:14:55 - Give us Sawyer’s background

01:20:57 - Where can people keep up with you?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Why I Always Carry a Bear Canister When Thru-Hiking by Moose Juice

QOTD: How long would you watch a loading screen before aborting all the info you entered/work you did/progress you made to start over?

Scary Thing of the Week

Pooping in the Woods Update

Triple Crown of conversations you don’t get into on trail

Listener Voicemail

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, brought to you by Sawyer Products, we are joined by Taylor the Nahamsha Hiker. Taylor is a thru-hiker, peak bagger, prominent YouTuber, and as of the recording of this episode, exceptionally pregnant. In addition to hiking the AT in 2021 and 2023, Taylor has also hiked all 48 of New Hampshire’s 4,000 footers. We learn all about her entry into the world of thru-hiking, how she grew her YouTube following- including a friendly sibling rivalry, what the life of running a gift store is like, and her AT-themed Monopoly board game.

We wrap the show with a recap of the remainder of this years AT Trail Days, including consuming butter and dead bodies (fortunately, not related), what Backpacker Radio fans shall henceforth call themselves, the triple crown of things we wish we could buy stock in, and preview a 175-mile hike that Badger is doing around Denver.

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Interview with Taylor the Nahamsha Hiker

• Taylor's Website
• Taylor's Instagram
• Taylor's Youtube
• Nahamsha Gifts

Time stamps & Questions

00:03:28 - Reminders: Suggest a guest for PCT Days and support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content!

00:06:07 - Trail Days Recap

00:32:15 - Introducing Taylor

00:34:49 - Tell us about moving to New Hampshire

00:37:17 - Tell us about your first hikes in the Whites and how those prepared you for the AT

00:39:15 - What was it like getting off the AT in 2020?

00:42:50 - How does one get into the gift shop business and what is it like?

00:48:01 - Did you start Youtubing during your first AT attempt?

00:50:22 - Tell us about getting back on the AT in 2021

00:52:25 - Tell us about getting off trail to drive a marathon

00:56:00 - Do you prefer hiking solo over hiking with a tramily?

00:58:30 - When did you start getting judgmental comments on your channel?

01:00:27 - In what instance do the comments go too far?

01:02:50 - How do you maintain your motivation while making videos?

01:06:15 - Did you have media training prior to starting Youtube?

01:08:02 - How has your tech changed over the years?

01:09:21 - What standout stories do you have from your 2021 hike?

01:10:30 - Have you always been athletic?

01:12:30 - Tell us about the Belknap Range Redline

01:16:00 - Discussion about Taylor’s wedding and honeymoon

01:17:24 - How did you decide to hike the AT a second time?

01:19:35 - What places did you intentionally return to on your second thru-hike?

01:20:55 - Tell us about the end of your second AT trip

01:26:57 - Did you enjoy the second hike as much as the first?

01:30:30 - Did you feel compelled to stay on trail because of your audience?

01:31:40 - Discussion about Taylor’s trail videos and advice for others01:33:50 - How do you make sure to record the highs and lows of the hike?

01:36:25 - Do you have any good poop stories?

01:41:48 - Tell us about the Lakes Region Explorer Patch Program

01:42:25 - Tell us about camping while 8 months pregnant 

01:44:50 - What videos do you have left to make before giving birth?

01:46:08 - What is the vent diagram between thru-hiker and pregnancy cravings?

01:47:50 - Where can people follow you?

01:48:36 - Sawyer Question: if you were given an unlimited budget to throw a party for any historical figure, who would it be and what would the theme be?

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Every Pizza on the Colorado Trail, Ranked by JT Simmons

QOTD: Beyonce has the beehive, Taylor Swift has the swifties, Lady Gaga has the little monsters…what would Backpacker Radio listeners be?

Triple Crown of things you wish you could buy stock in

New Thing of the Week

Priest Confessions

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Gillian Daniels, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Hailey Buckingham, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns.

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In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek brought to you by Sawyer Products, we are joined by Brandon “Horsepower” Weis. With minimal prior backpacking experience, in 2021,  Brandon successfully completed the calendar year triple crown plus a thru-hike of the Arizona Trail. The next two years were not any more laid back, as he accrued more than 15,000 miles worth of backpacking over a three year span, including treks of the Benton MacKay Trail, Pinhoti, Oregon Desert Trail, Bigfoot Trail, Pacific Northwest Trail, Colorado Trail, Hayduke, and the Sheltowee Trace Trail. In addition to giving us an overview of these treks, Horsepower delights us with fun stories, including a terrifying encounter with a grizzly, sleeping in countless pit toilets, being asked to leave a restaurant due to his odor, accidentally drinking deet, and more. 

We wrap the show with an overview of the first half of trail days, including how Badger is the world’s biggest moron, the triple crown of our short section hike on the AT, and how many drinks constitute drinking.

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Interview with Brandon “Horsepower” Weis

• Brandon's Instagram
• Brandon's Book

Time stamps & Questions

00:07:30 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon for exclusive bonus content and suggest a guest for us to interview at PCT Days!

00:08:54 - Introducing Horsepower

00:09:40 - What’s your trail name origin story?

00:11:11 - What was your background in weight lifting prior to backpacking?

00:12:45 - Where did your interest in thru-hiking come from?

00:14:37 - How long were your section hikes prior to the CYTC?

00:14:55 - Tell us about being a big Lil Wayne fan

00:16:34 - Tell us about being a partier

00:18:26 - Tell us about deciding to hike the Calendar Year Triple Crown

00:20:29 - In what other ways have you gone all in on something you’re interested in?

00:22:21 - Tell us about starting the Calendar Year Triple Crown

00:24:30 - How much did your pack weigh when you started?

00:26:35 - Did you keep to a regular hiking schedule?

00:28:11 - At any point did you think it might not have been a good idea?

00:30:27 - Did you factor in zero days or town vortexes?

00:36:00 - What were your lowest points on the AT?

00:40:42 - What was your low point on the first CDT section?

00:43:47 - What drew you to The One tent?

00:44:28 - Discussion about switching over to the PCT

00:46:30 - Were you too tired to talk to other hikers?

00:47:08 - What were the high and low points on the PCT?

00:48:54 - How did you mitigate injuries?

00:50:52 - Tell us about your back injury

00:55:00 - Are you glad you have already done the Calendar Year Triple Crown?

00:56:02 - McDonalds bathroom story

00:57:44 - Too smelly to be in a restaurant story

00:58:36 - Was the AZT always the plan?

01:00:12 - Discussion about getting off the Buckeye Trail

01:01:00 - Burnt shoes story

01:03:10 - Pit toilet connoisseur 

01:05:48 - Savage mice and rats

01:07:30 - Kind of maybe saved a guy’s life 

01:09:10 - Held at nonthreatening knifepoint in a car 

01:10:22 - Accidentally drinking DEET 

01:10:53 - Accidentally holding a lovely couple hostage 

01:12:26 - Hearing the song Roxanne 200 times in a night

01:15:30 - Tell us about going back to smaller trails after the CYTC

01:19:09 - Tell us about the Oregon Desert Trail

01:24:30 - Tell us about the Bigfoot Trail

01:30:48 - What’s your rationale for doing so many miles?

01:31:56 - Are you frugal when out on trail?

01:33:44 - What was your biggest pigout moment?

01:35:05 - What’s your favorite meal on trail?

01:36:37 - Eating so much peanut butter he became allergic

01:39:10 - Did you supplement at all on trail?

01:39:35 - Tell us about the Pacific Northwest Trail

01:48:15 - Plug your book!

Segments

Trek Propaganda: Authorities Investigating Fish Hooks Stuffed In Dog Treats Along Appalachian Trail by Ariella Nardizzi

QOTD: How many drinks constitutes “drinking”?

Triple Crown of moments from AT hiking

One Minute Gear Reviews

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.

In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Quoc “Double Magic” Nguyen. Double Magic might just be the most accomplished backpacker you’ve never heard of, along with being in the running for most interesting person on earth. His 23,000 miles of backpacking started with trails you know, like the Colorado Trail and the Pacific Northwest Trail, and quickly evolved to trails you likely haven’t including Norge pa Langs,  Via Dinarica, the Colorado Loop (a 1500 mile route he made up), a pair of epic excursions in Alaska, and trekking around the Aleutian Islands, a thing people don’t do. This one is a like a snowball rolling downhill, it gets more momentum and becomes more dangerous the further it goes. 

We wrap the show with some news of grizzlies getting reintroduced to the Cascades, the triple crown of cheeses, and a listener pumps our tires on our behalf.

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Interview with Quoc “Double Magic” Nguyen

• Quoc's Instagram
• Quoc's Website

Time stamps & Questions

00:03:50 - Reminders: Support us on Patreon to get exclusive bonus content and don’t miss important updates by subscribing to the Trek’s newsletter or submitting your email on our website!

00:05:45 - Introducing Quoc

00:07:28 - How did you get into the outdoors?

00:09:34 - How did you transition from peakbagging to thru-hiking?

00:12:04 - What stood out to you from your first thru-hike?

00:13:14 - Were you stressed about money after graduating law school?

00:16:28 - How do you deal with shifting priorities?

00:18:25 - What is your trail name origin story?

00:19:41 - Why the Te Araroa as a second hike?

00:22:45 - Discussion about the TA

00:24:16 - How did you learn about the international hikes you’ve done?

00:26:14 - What did you learn about thru-hiking during your first two hikes?

00:27:29 - What was the first route you created?

00:28:42 - Tell us about the Iceland Traverse

00:35:45 - Do you not feel fear?

00:38:30 - Did you ever think you were gunna die?

00:42:00 - Tell us about the Norway end to end hike

00:45:26 - Was this a stressful trek?

00:46:30 - What were the terrain and resupplies like?

00:48:11 - Discussion about the ULA circuit

00:49:00 - Do you have tips for hiking efficiently?

00:50:38 - Tell us about your nutrition while hiking

00:55:00 - Would you recommend the Norway hike to others?

00:57:29 - How tired are you after the Norway hike?

01:00:00 - How do you make your trips work financially?

01:05:30 - Does it bother you when people don’t return their carts?

01:07:30 - Tell us about your current job in homeland security

01:09:32 - What are the worst things that have happened to you on trail?

01:15:15 - Why don’t you use a satellite communication device or bear spray?

01:17:00 - Story about being charged by bears

01:21:48 - Have your feelings about grizzly bears changed?

01:24:52 - What are you afraid of?

01:27:00 - What is your gym routine like?

01:31:00 - Tell us about the Brooks Range Traverse

01:35:55 - Do you ever get frustrated or lose your temper?

01:36:50 - What are the mileages of these two traverses?

01:39:25 - Tell us about the Alaska Traverse

01:46:00 - What are your big three?

01:47:20 - What do you use for footwear?

01:48:50 - Do you carry a bear canister?

01:51:00 - Tell us about the Cordillera Blanca Traverse & Huayhuash Circuit

01:54:41 - Tell us about the 1,500 mile Colorado Loop

01:58:40 - What are your favorite 13ers?

02:01:22 - Kumo Question: What is the most ridiculous fashion trend you’ve participated in?

Segments

Chaunce’s Wedding Update

Trek Propaganda: Grizzlies To Be Reintroduced in North Cascades: What It Means for the PCT by Kelly Floro

QOTD:  Would you rather be a cowboy, a samurai, or a pirate?

Triple Crown of cheeses

Listener Voicemail

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

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A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.

In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio, we’ve got another banger Q&A episode for you. We are joined by everyone’s favorite viking who hikes to cover your burning questions. Subjects in today’s episode include our most underrated pieces of gear, what single food item we've used on the most hikes, our go-to sun protection strategies, how careful someone should be during a norovirus outbreak, what single thing we like most about long-distance backpacking, and more. We wrap the show with what our level of surprise would be to see a dragon, the triple crown of seemingly simple things that don't make sense (this of course goes off the rails), and we give a listener dream tapeworms.

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Q&A with Jabba

• Viking's Instagram

Time stamps & Questions

00:03:22 - Reminders: Keep up with content from the Trek via the newsletter, check out our brand new hats (and use code “gingerstuff” for 15% in the Trek store), and recommend someone we should interview at PCT Trail Days!

00:06:34 - Introducing Jabba

00:08:52 - What’s your sun protection strategy in highly exposed environments?

00:31:12 - What’s the most underrated piece of gear in your pack?

00:40:19 - Patent Pending: Titanium Water Bottle

00:47:45 - What is the single food item that’s been in your food bag the most?

01:06:50 - How can you handle norovirus outbreaks?

01:15:10 - The Veteran-Vargo-Viking Story

01:23:50 - How many times do you poo a day hiking/biking…also who’s cooler, Zach or Chaunce?

01:26:47 - How do you maintain muscle mass on the trail, especially after so many hikes?

01:30:11 - What was your first tattoo?

01:33:55 - What’s your favorite hiking trail you’ve ever done?

01:39:05 - How do you pack a frameless pack?

01:43:57 - If you had to pick one thing you like most about thru-hiking, what would it be?

Segments

Trek Propaganda

• List of US Long Trails
• 5 Budget-Friendly Ultralight Backpacking Hacks by Moose Juice

Kumo Question: What is the weirdest thing you’ve ever eaten and would you recommend it?

QOTD: How surprised would you be to see a dragon flying in the sky?

Triple Crown of seemingly simple things that don’t make sense

Mail Bag

5 Star Review

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Our theme song is Walking Slow by Animal Years.

A super big thank you to our Chuck Norris Award winner(s) from Patreon: Alex & Misty with Navigators Crafting, Andrew, Austen McDaniel, Austin Ford, Brad & Blair (Thirteen Adventures), Brent Stenberg, Bryan Alsop, Christopher Marshburn, Coach from Marion Outdoors, Dayne, Derek Koch, Eric Casper, Erik Hofmann, Greg Knight, Greg McDaniel may he bring honor to his name, Hailey Buckingham, Jason “The Snail” Snailer barely know her, Liz Seger, Patrick Cianciolo, Sawyer Products, SPAM, Timothy Hahn, and Tracy “Trigger” Fawns.

A big thank you to our Cinnamon Connection Champions from Patreon: 12 Trees Farms, Bonnie Ackerman, David, Dcnerdlet, Emily Galusha, Jeanie, Jeanne Latshaw, Joann Menzer, Katharine Rudzitis, Keith Dobie Jr, Merle Watkins, Peter, and Ruth S.