In what was a genuine highlight of 2022 for me to have former European 400 meters champion and the best broadcaster in Irish Athletics, David Gillick, come over to the tortoise shack.

We discuss he career as an elite athlete, how he struggled to transition to a post-running life, his mental health struggles and the love he has for his family, the sport and the athletes he now covers. David opens up about the low points and is searingly honest about how he, like us all, are only ever a work in progress. I loved this conversation.

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