A rich conversation with filmmaker & poetess Effie Spence about feminine wisdom and the power of recentering matriarchal values. Effie shares her period-stained poetry ‘A Bloody Mess’ and docuseries ‘Motherland’, which follows her journey to ancestral roots to rediscover herself through the women who came before. We talk tarot, menarche malarkey, cycle syncing, and more. Includes a question for all about how to turn this sadgap.podcast into a practical community of care. (Bonus toward the end, and a big topic: what if the antithesis of patriarchy isn’t the smashing we’ve heard about, but something softer and more intimate instead.)