In this episode, Will sits down with one of his closest friends, Paul, someone he's known for almost 20 years- to talk hoops, card collecting, and how sports (and sports cards) help us build lasting memories with our kids.

What makes this conversation so refreshing is that Paul is deep into the NBA but hasn’t collected cards since childhood. That means his perspective is totally untainted by the modern card market — no hype, no flipping, just pure fandom.

We dive into what really makes cards valuable to a true basketball fan: connection, nostalgia, and storytelling. From the days of trading packs at school to watching games with our own kids, we explore how collecting can bring generations together and remind us why we fell in love with sports in the first place.

If you’ve ever felt burned out by the card market or just want to reconnect with the joy of collecting, this one’s for you.