Patricia and Christian talk to NHS campaigner and director of Public Matters Deborah Harrington about the history of the NHS and its conflict with neoliberalism.

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Short films by Deborah and Public Matters:

Privatising the NHS - A View from the Top: https://youtu.be/mZacwpsuOm0

Whose NHS Is it Anyway?: https://youtu.be/ZKGmejifw14

The NHS (Very) Long Term Plan: https://youtu.be/7_UUksSL-y8

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