Nicholas Lobo Brennan and Astrid Smitham founded Apparata, their London-based architecture practice, in 2016.

"What we are always trying to do is a kind of activism, but the activism is entirely expressed and developed through prosaic things – literally, where is the door, how wide is the walkway, that kind of stuff.

It’s not either or – either architecture is its own autonomous discipline, or it’s a social practice – there has to be room for the idea that the actual devices you use to engage with activist work can literally be construction, space and architecture."

Buy tickets to Architecture on Stage: A public housing manifesto (This Friday 26 January at the Barbican Centre)

Scaffold is an Architecture Foundation production, hosted by Matthew Blunderfield.

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