Dr. Michael Hudson is a professor of Economics at the University of Missouri Kansas City, political consultant, commentator, and journalist. His career has focused on the study of debt, both external and internal, with an eye on what happens when the exponentially growing debts of a society outstrip the profits from the real economy. In the second part of our conversation we talk about modern monetary theory, the path towards debt forgiveness, and the foundational rules of a more perfect society that is not getting devoured by the rentier class. Support the podcast by check out Dr. Hudson’s books through our amazon affiliate link: https://amzn.to/44F6J7n00:00:00 Go!