Trump’s attitude towards Ukraine leaves Europe in an uncertain position – how will it handle this new era? Gavin Esler joins Ros Taylor to discuss the turbulent situation after that horrendous Oval Office meeting and a major meeting of European leaders over the weekend. 

Want more insight on the Zelenskyy and Trump meeting aftermath? Listen to our sibling podcast American Friction: https://linktr.ee/americanfriction 

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Written and presented by Ros Taylor with Gavin Esler. Audio production: Tom Taylor. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production.  

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