In this episode, nurse and educator Martha Paynter and Métis midwife Cheryllee Bourgeois explore how abolition and decolonization are fundamentally intertwined with feminism. We discuss the need for a societal transformation that ensures body sovereignty, freedom and safety for all—because imprisoning and criminalizing people cannot coexist with these principles. We envision a Canada where resources are redirected from the carceral system to programs that meet essential needs like income support, housing, health care, and transportation. This shift is crucial to upholding the core tenets of reproductive justice, ensuring that everyone has the autonomy and stability necessary to thrive.

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