Jay Bookman is a gem of a journalist and opinion writer, and Georgia Recorder is lucky to have him - as am I, on occasion and today is such an occasion.

He joined me to discuss his latest - "Stacey Abrams’ political aspirations bookended by bad timing" - to discuss the 2026 Georgia gubernatorial field as it may (or may not) shape up to look like, along with a few other topics - like Donald Trump's aversion for calling on the Department of Justice to investigate that 2020 election his insists was stolen.

Plus, I don't often find much I agree with Vivek Ramaswamy on, but what got him ousted from DOGE and Trump's good graces is something he's (mostly) not wrong about. He ran afoul of "American exceptionalism," though, and MAGA's don't want to be confused by vowing to "make America great again" while also being told America's culture is inferior to those from throughout the rest of the world.