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Adam Kinzinger: Don't Feed the Dictator


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Russia is losing the war in Ukraine. More than 1 million Russian troops have been killed or injured, and it's been estimated that it would take another four years and 2 million more soldiers for Putin to conquer the Donbas region. So no, Ben Shapiro, getting Ukraine to sacrifice the region in return for some kind of security guarantee would not be a "masterstroke" for Trump. Meanwhile, red state governors sending National Guard troops to D.C. are disrupting the lives and families of those troops at back-to-school time—just to please Daddy Trump. Plus, the MAGA socialism around Intel, Dems should advise foreign countries to think twice about doing corrupt deals with Trump, and Hegseth's pull-ups don't cut it in the alpha male world he thinks he's making.

Adam Kinzinger joins Tim Miller.
show notes

  • Tim on the Louisiana governor sending the National Guard to D.C.

  • Kinzinger's interview with Jason Riddle

  • Jonathan Martin on Trump giving Putin more time to stall

  • FT on Europeans comparing eastern Ukraine to Florida 
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