In this episode, Pat is joined by Joe Stephan, Financial Adviser and Director at Stephan Independent Advisory, and Host of the "It's Never About Money" podcast. They discuss Joe's client-focused approach, and his evolving tech stack — including AI, CRM migrations, and client engagement tools — shaping the future of his practice.

Joe Stephan LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephstephancfp/ Stephan Independent Advisory Website: https://siadvisory.com.au/ "It's Never About Money" Podcast: https://itsneveraboutmoney.com.au/

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