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Afro-Pessimism Explained: Stagnation or Path to Black Liberation?


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In this episode of The Dugout, we dive into the complex ideology of Afro-pessimism—a framework that explores the enduring impacts of racism, colonialism, and slavery on Black life in the United States. We break down Afro-pessimism as an ideology, practice, and meta-theory, questioning how seriously it should be taken in the fight against anti-Blackness. Plus, we explore a provocative question: Is Candace Owens an Afro-pessimist, but for evil?

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What is Afro-pessimism?

Afro-pessimism is a critical theory that examines the legacy of the transatlantic slave trade, positioning it not just as a historical event but as a structure that continues to shape modern social, racial, and economic realities. This episode unpacks how Afro-pessimism views anti-Blackness as a systemic and psychic force, influencing both structural conditions and individual experiences in a world built on the foundations of Black oppression.

Tune in as we discuss the significance of Afro-pessimism in understanding Black life, its role in shaping revolutionary thought, and how it intersects with contemporary figures like Candace Owens.

-----------------------------------------------RUN OF SHOW(00:00) Intro (04:05) READING | The Vengeance of Vertigo: Aphasia and Abjection in the Political Trials of Black Insurgents from this Afropessmist collection or found separately here(04:57) What is the Libidinal Economy (06:52) Definitions of Common Afropessimism Terms(07:47) READING | “Afropessimism’s Radical Abdication” by Loic Wacquant on the New Left Review(14:20) READING | Afropessimism, A Memoir by Frank B. Wilderson III + Processing a Wildersonian POV and Afropessimism(16:06) Ask Philosophy Reddit Post on Afropessimism(21:51) Points of Contact with Colonization and Anti-Blackness(25:55) "The stranger" as a slave by Saidiya Hartman in Lose Your Mother(27:15) What are the qualities of Afropessimism?(30:48) READING | Lose Your Mother by Saidiya Hartman(34:58) Reflections on Lose Your Mother by Saidiya Hartman(36:58) What are critiques of Afropessimism?(46:18) Is Prince an Afropessimist?(49:43) Recap + Anti-Blackness in the Philippines(52:26) Opposing Afropessimism with Critical Fabulation(54:40) Context about Russian Nihilist subculture and writing(55:11) Closing Notes on Afropessimism and more

-SHOW NOTES🔗 Incognegro by Frank B Wilderson III: https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9780822359937

🔗 Lose Your Mother by Saidiya Hartman:

https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9780374531157🔗 Afropessimism by Frank B Wilderson III:

https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781324090519

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ON... LIBIDINAL ECONOMY:

EPISODE NOTE: Libidinal economy is better defined as the exchange and accumulation of fantasy, phobia, and clout, conscious or unconscious, in the minds of all. It can be described as the arena of desire and power and I highly recommend further reading can start ⁠here⁠!

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