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  • Protecting Pe'sla with Dr. Valeriah Big Eagle and Wizipan Little Elk Garriot of NDN Collective


    In this episode of The Dugout, we sit down with Valeriah Big Eagle and Wizipan Little Elk Garriot, organizers with NDN Collective, to discuss the ongoing struggle to protect the Black Hills and the sacred lands of the Oceti Sakowin.

    Valeriah and Wizipan share their personal journeys into organizing, the importance of kinship and Indigenous lifeways, and what it means to understand ourselves as relatives. They explain why the Black Hills are sacred and central to Lakota, Dakota, and Nakota history, culture, spirituality, and creation stories. After learning about the fight to protect Pe'sla we look toward the future: the campaign to return the Black Hills to the Oceti Sakowin, efforts toward a Black Hills mineral withdrawal, environmental restoration, and the importance of building relationships across Indigenous communities and movements.

    Learn more at

    https://ndncollective.org/

    https://dayonemovement.org/

    Chapters

    00:00 Intro

    06:10 What does kinship mean and how has it informed your organizing

    10:24 Where and what is Pe'sla

    14:00 Why is He Sapa under attack and by whom?

    16:25 how did action to protect Pe'sla come to be and what was that like on the ground

    25:53 what was it like to see those drills marched out and how was that connected to ceremony

    29:47 10 years after standing rock what are some lessons learns or shifts in movement

    31:47 What are some of the next steps for the protection of He Sapa?

    36:27 Closing remarks

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    39 min
  • What Black August Means To Us? A Black Anarchist Reflection

    What does it mean to develop discipline without reproducing authoritarianism? How can study become a form of preparation? How can remembering political prisoners change the way we understand incarceration happening around us now?

    This is Black August 2026: Part 2.

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    Media Featured for Black August in this episode

    • Archival footage from Ellis Haizlip's Soul featuring Georgia Jackson, mother of George and Jonathan Jackson. | Watch more of SOUL! on this Youtube playlist

    • A reading of Ya'Iyr Carter's "The Death of Jonathan Jackson," published through In the Belly


    EPISODE CHAPTERS

    00:00 Introducing the episode

    01:50 Jonathan Jackson and the origins of Black August

    15:00 Discipline without authoritarianism

    37:00 ICE and Electric shock gloves

    44:43 Legal support, jail support, and political education

    56:00 Georgia Jackson on Soul

    01:04:31 "The Death of Jonathan Jackson" by Ya'Iyr Carter

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    More from this episode

    George Jackson: Soledad Brother, Blood in My Eye

    Other Books

    Against the State — James Stout, Are Prisons Obsolete? — Angela Davis, Assata: An Autobiography — Assata Shakur, The Autobiography of Malcolm X, Negroes with Guns — Robert F. Williams, Black Reconstruction in America — W.E.B. Du Bois, Revolutionary Suicide — Huey P. Newton

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    Black August, Black August 2026, prison liberation, Black anarchism, abolition, prison abolition, political prisoners, prison organizing, political education, revolutionary discipline, self sovereignty, autonomy, political memory, political grief, carcerality, carceral state, immigration enforcement, ICE Watch, ICE, surveillance, prison technology, electric shock gloves, legal support, jail support, prisoner support, movement infrastructure, investigative journalism, OSINT, political repression, state repression, revolutionary history, Black liberation, prison resistance, Black radical history, abolitionist organizing, revolutionary organizing, George Jackson, Jonathan Jackson, Georgia Jackson, Black August history, The Dugout, Black anarchist podcast


    1 hr 14 min
  • In The Belly Black August '26 Ft. Kevin "Rashid" Johnson & Pierre "Polo" Pinson

    This episode features readings and discussion from the 2026 Black August issue of In the Belly, a prisoner-led abolitionist magazine. The hosts discuss pieces by Pierre "Polo" Pinson and Kevin “Rashid” Johnson, alongside poetry by Assata Shakur and a poem featured in Judas and the Black Messiah. Together, these works raise questions about revolution, religion, spirituality, negotiation, reproductive labor, political education, and what it means to build a liberated world rather than simply seek reforms within the existing one.

    This episode is an invitation to study history, question the promises of the present, and think seriously about what revolutionary practice can look like in our own lives.


    Contact

    Smart Communications/PA-DOC
    Randy Carter #HV2925
    SCI Chester
    PO Box 33028
    St. Petersburg, FL 33733

    Kevin Rashid Johnson 1007485

    Keen Mountain Correctional Center

    3402 Kennel Gap Rd

    Oakwood, VA 24631


    Chapters

    00:00 looong intro

    18:05 Rhinoceros Womane by Assata shakur

    21:07 What is itb

    24:06 Phantom of liberty by polo

    31:56 reflection

    48:45 God Is Here by Kevin "Rashid" Johnson

    52:42 Reflection

    01:06:14 Poem from Judas and the Black Messiah, by actor Dominique Fishback as Akua Njeri

    01:07:50 Reflection and outro

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    1 hr 12 min
  • Facing Repression at the U-M Encampment & Movement Lessons: Interview w/ Sammie

    A #RepressionWatch upload to The Dugout.

    For this RepressionWatch episode, I talk with organizer Sammie (they/them) about the 2024 Gaza solidarity encampment at the University of Michigan, the police raid that broke it up, and the lasting toll of being sprayed with a chemical agent called Deep Freeze. We get into the felony charges that followed, misogynoir in organizing spaces, and what it means to keep showing up for a movement after the state has already come for you.

    EPISODE CORRECTION: Sammie refers to a co-defendant as an "Arab person", but meant to say he's "Pakistani".

    GUEST: Sammie (they/them) is a Michigan-based community organizer whose work spans the George Floyd 2020 protests, housing organizing, and Palestine solidarity activism.

    Instagram: @inkanduprising

    Linktree: https://www.linktr.ee/Inkanduprising

    Substack: https://www.inkanduprising.substack.com

    Watch on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvkmlEmy8Z8

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    Resources Mentioned

    • The Guardian, Oct 2024 — "Michigan attorney general Dana Nessel pushed to prosecute campus Gaza protesters"

    • The Guardian, May 2025 — "Michigan drops charges against pro-Palestinian protesters"

    • The Guardian, Apr 2025 — "Lawyer's phone searched at US border" —

    • The Guardian, Sep 2025 — "Teargas and menstruation: the health effects of protest policing"

    • EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) — statement of material facts, Alasaad v. Mayorkas

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    1 hr 1 min
  • ABANDON NOBODY: Organizing in Lebanon, Mutual Aid & Survival Under Attack

    In this episode of The Dugout, we speak with Lebanese anarchists about organizing and surviving through war, occupation, sectarianism, displacement, and economic crisis. We discuss what brought them to anarchism, how they understand Lebanon’s history, and why the experiences of South Lebanon and Beirut can look so different.

    We talk about the realities of Israel’s attacks, the conditions facing migrant and kafala workers, and the everyday needs people are confronting as communities are displaced and homes are destroyed.

    At the center of the conversation is a simple principle: abandon nobody.

    What does solidarity look like when people are already overwhelmed? How do you provide relief without becoming another NGO? And how can anarchists build relationships, share skills, and meet people’s needs without taking control away from the communities they are trying to support?

    Chapters

    00:00 Intro

    06:35 What motivated you to get into organizing

    13:11 How do you get to anarchism and what does anarchism mean to you?

    17:08 How would you introduce Lebanon to our listeners

    24:33 How is south Lebanon’s history been shaped differently?

    33:02 How is Beirut or the north different?

    36:51 How has the day to day changed in recent attacks by Israel

    41:05 How have condition changed for Migrant or Kafala workers?

    43:15 What are people in Lebanon worried about right now and what are people doing to address those needs?

    48:38 What are some misconception you see online about Lebanon?

    58:28 How do you fight against disenfranchisement

    01:05:36 What lessons or structures from previous uprising are at play today?

    01:09:39 Details on a Lebanese anarchist organizing project

    01:17:52 How are Lebanese anarchist working on relief efforts without becoming like typical NGO’s

    01:24:55 What are conversation of healing or justice sounding like right now?

    01:29:43 What solidarity efforts have you seen to be useful for your efforts

    01:41:23 Last thoughts

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    1 hr 46 min
  • Building A Cadre For Community Defense w/ Atlas Defense

    What does it mean to defend your community when the state has already decided it won't? Today we sit down with Alex, Manuel, and Solaris of Atlas Defense, a Twin Cities community defense collective. We get into what community defense actually means, how they built a cadre with no hierarchy, and how Indigenous sovereignty and death work shape the way they think about safety. We also talk about how their organizing shifted once ICE occupied the Twin Cities, and what it takes to keep each other safe under repression.

    Show Notes on Patreon

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    Guests: Alex, Manuel, and Solaris of Atlas Defense

    • 📷 Alex: @alex_does80
    • 🛡️ Atlas Defense: atlasdefensemn.com
    • 📷 Atlas Defense: @atlasdefensemn
    • 🖨️ Atlas Defense Print Subscription (People's Printer): atlasdefensemn.com/product/people-s-printer
    • 🌐 Solaris: solarisism.org


    On Atlas Defense: Atlas Defense is a Twin Cities community defense collective founded in 2016, built on the idea that abolition means abundance; training neighbors in everything from verbal de-escalation to firearms so that safety becomes a shared responsibility, not something outsourced to police or the state.

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    📚 Mentioned Media

    Books & Texts

    📚 Black Liberation Army dictionary/resource — referenced re: "group and split" organizing model

    📚 George Jackson's work:

    Historical Reference

    🔗 Minneapolis General Strike of 1934 — Teamsters Local 574, referenced as historical precedent for general strikes

    Other Media

    🔗 Solarism — Solaris's website

    🔗 A Black Child's Lament — Solaris's essay

    🔗 SWOP MPLS — sex worker organizing partner referenced re: firearm training

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    1 hr 33 min
  • Cal & Isaac of The Minnesota 15 on ICE Watch & The Federal Indictment

    Guests:Cal & Isaac, two of the Minnesota 15 defendants

    In this episode of The Dugout, we sit down with Cal and Isaac, two of the fifteen people indicted following Operation Metro Surge, the federal immigration occupation of the Twin Cities. We trace their political histories, from labor organizing and anti-cult work to anti-fascist organizing, and get a firsthand account of the ICE occupation of Minneapolis-St. Paul: the killing of Renee Goode, the general strike of January 23rd, and the federal raids that led to their arrest and indictment. We discuss the specific repression they're facing (including a pre-dawn SWAT raid): months-long surveillance, and federal charges that they argue amount to "thought crimes" and what kind of support actually matters right now.

    Show notes on Patreon (free): https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod/posts/interview-with-165218458

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    📣 Calls for Support

    Legal defense fundraiser is active on Chuffed, funds go toward legal costs and material support for people who have lost jobs due to the prosecution:

    🔗 https://chuffed.org/project/186570-minnesota-15-legal-defense-fund

    Minnesota 15 Defense Page: https://minnesota15.org/

    Minnesota 15 on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/Minnesota.15

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    Where To Learn More

    Unicorn Riot: https://unicornriot.ninja/2026/government-says-terabytes-of-signal-chats-are-central-to-the-case-against-minnesota-15/

    'Minnesota 15' Defendants Cal & Ike Speak Out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gek4xLNgi_8

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    Episode Chapters

    00:00 Intro
    01:12 Audio disclaimer + support links
    02:31 "What was young you like?"
    03:26 "What brought you to the Twin Cities?"

    11:41 "What has the last year been like organizing through the ICE surge?"

    27:07 "What have you learned about state violence and solidarity?"

    32:41 "Can you explain what a Starlight Tour is?"

    41:22 "How did you learn about the indictment?"

    51:43 "Where can people find reliable info and support?"

    53:45 Outro

    55 min
  • “Solidarity Has To Have Teeth”: Palestine, Abolition, and Building Struggle Across Borders — with Noura & F12

    In this episode of The Dugout, we sit down with organizers Noura and F12 for a conversation about Palestine, abolition, Afropessimism, international solidarity, and what it actually takes to sustain struggle.


    What does it mean to travel to Palestine without romanticizing struggle? What is “protective presence,” and what can international organizers actually offer communities living under occupation? How does the occupation control not only land and movement, but people's relationship to time, planning, and the future itself?

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    About the Guests


    Noura is an Oakland-based Palestinian American organizer. The daughter of refugees from the 1967 War, she has spent over two decades in international solidarity and non-violent direct action. She spent years organizing with the Stop Urban Shield Coalition to successfully dismantle militarized police expos in California.

    Noura Instagram: @bint_fulusteen

    Faz3a Pal Instagram: @faz3a_pal


    F12 is a Sacramento-based Black radical organizer, writer, and abolitionist. After spending 14 years incarcerated, they expanded their work into internationalist solidarity, engaging in hands-on protective presence work in the West Bank, and much more.

    F12 Substack: https://substack.com/@toussaintf12

    F12 Instagram: @toussaintf12

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    BOOKS & MEDIA MENTIONED

    • George Jackson — Blood in My Eye
    • Anarcho-Blackness
    • Stolen Youth: The Politics of Israel’s Detention of Palestinian Children
    • The Life and Work of George Jackson — Anasi’s Library documentary


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    0:00 — Intro: What does solidarity actually demand of us in moments of crisis?

    2:37 — Introductions: Nora and F12

    3:04 — "What was young you like?"

    11:39 — Follow-up: Was your depoliticization tied to familial trauma and survival/assimilation?

    17:24 — What brought you into a deeper, lifelong organizing practice?

    26:47 — How did you each first start getting involved with the Palestinian liberation movement?

    43:52 — Can you talk about how the opportunity to go to Palestine came about, and what that material work looked like?

    56:28 — What sort of traps do activists get caught in when thinking about traveling for solidarity work?

    1:01:18 — Reflection: local privilege in solidarity movements and the "romanticism" of solidarity

    1:06:40 — What's it like to travel as a decolonial organizer engaged in a cause so heavily based in land struggles, and how does that translate to organizing on Turtle Island?

    1:14:28 — What does actionable decolonization look like, and why do people romanticize other struggles but not see their own lives as part of it?

    1:25:26 — What alternative systems or decolonial economic practices have you seen in Palestine?

    1:29:58 — How does anti-Blackness show up in movement spaces, and how do we build past aesthetic radicalism?

    1:37:42 — What does state repression look like, and what does care work for each other look like?

    1:37:58 — "How are you staying sane?"

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    1 hr 55 min
  • Why Southern History Changes Everything W/ On Our Own Authority

    Modibo Kadalie and Andrew Zonneveld sit down for a conversation about the moments that shaped their politics over decades of organizing. Modibo reflects on the decision to resist the Vietnam draft and leave the United States, while both discuss what it was like raising children alongside anti-war organizing, how the history of Georgia and the Black South continues to influence their thinking, and where they see Pan-Africanism today. They also share what’s next for On Our Own Authority Publishing and close by reflecting on the movements, struggles, and everyday acts of resistance that continue to give them hope for the future.

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    00:00 Intro

    00:50 what was it live to make the decision to leave the USA

    13:37 how was engaging in social movements as a new parent

    22:18 how does being in Georgia impact your politics

    31:34 what is the state of Pan-Africanism in your eyes

    34:16 what are some new books or projects On Our Own Authority is planning?

    43:14 What is giving you hope

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    Community Books

    https://community-books.com/

    Support Community Books on Patreon

    On Our Own Authority

    https://on-our-own-authority-publishing.square.site/

    www.oooabooks.org

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    49 min
  • Writing History from Below W/ On Our Own Authority Modibo Kadalie & Andrew Zonneveld Part 1/2

    What does it take to build revolutionary institutions that last? In Part 1 of this interview, we’re joined by Andrew and Modibo of On Our Own Authority, a radical publishing collective and community bookstore in metro Atlanta. Together, we discuss the politics of publishing, preserving movement history, and creating spaces where revolutionary ideas can be studied, debated, and put into practice.

    The conversation explores Black radical traditions, oral history, direct democracy, social ecology, independent bookstores, and why movements need physical spaces that outlive social media and political trends. Along the way, we reflect on writing history from below, the role of archives in liberation struggles, and what it means to build intellectual and cultural infrastructure rooted in collective power rather than hierarchy.

    01:26 Intro

    05:14 what was a young you like

    10:51 Origins of The Dugout

    14:13 How does the Dugout see our work being preserved or impactful

    17:53 what have you learned through the process of having a bookstore

    29:36 how has your approach to publishing evolved?

    35:57 what key changed have you made to make model ore sustainable

    10:46 Atlanta Radical Book fair

    44:57 what does de-centering heroes in history look like?

    Community Books

    https://community-books.com/

    Support Community Books on Patreon

    On Our Own Authority

    https://on-our-own-authority-publishing.square.site/

    www.oooabooks.org

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    56 min

About The Dugout | a Black anarchist podcast

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The Dugout is a weekly Black anarchist podcast hosted by Prince Shakur & Jordan. We bring radical, decolonial, and queer takes on politics, movements, and media, covering everything from Black anarchism and Afro-pessimism to uprisings, direct action, and liberation struggles worldwide.

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