ABOUT THE EPISODE

In this episode, we explore why the real threat isn’t just Project 2025, but our collective failure to resist U.S. imperialism and state violence. While Project 2025 endangers immigration, reproductive rights, and public education, it’s a symptom of America’s deeper monopoly on power. We break down how media illiteracy, political memes, and celebrity politicians pacify us, and how both parties scapegoat immigrants. The focus shouldn’t just be opposing one project—it’s about building the capacity to resist the broader empire and fight for true liberation. Join us as we discuss what real resistance looks like and how we can push for lasting change.

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EPISODE CHAPTERS

00:00 Intro

01:24 Kamala Harris Campaign, Oprah, and the Betrayal of the Black Elite

04:08 The Need for Social Media Literacy and An End To Xenophobia

07:24 Breaking Down Policies In Project 2025

14:58 Project 2025 on Immigration

16:43 On the terror of potential DE-NATURALIZATION under Trump 2024

20:31 On the need for resistance, whether under PROJECT 2025 or Kamala Harris

27:37 Why we resist no matter what the outcome

32:43 Outro

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MENTIONED MEDIA

🔗 DNC and Social Media Influencers: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/us/politics/dnc-social-media-influencers.html

This episode examines the dangers of memeifying politics, focusing on Trump’s xenophobic remarks about Haitian immigrants in the 2024 debate. As a West Indian Ohioan, I discuss how memes normalize hate, pacify resistance, and even strengthen fascism. We explore how the right weaponizes memes for recruitment and how humor can defang political critique.

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Media and Research Mentioned:

🔗 Migrant Caravan National Emergency - Daily Dot: https://www.dailydot.com/irl/migrant-caravan-national-emergency/

🔗 Inside the Hate Factory: How Facebook Fuels Far-Right Profit - The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/06/inside-the-hate-factory-how-facebook-fuels-far-right-profit

🔗 Trump Referred to Haiti and African Countries as 'Shithole Nations' - NBC News: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-referred-haiti-african-countries-shithole-nations-n836946

🔗 A Brief History of Fascist Lies by Federico Finchelstein: https://bookshop.org/a/23229/9780520389779

🔗 Why It’s Time for White Male Mediocrity to Lose - Ijeoma Oluo, NBC News:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/ijeoma-oluo-why-it-s-time-white-male-mediocrity-lose-n1251948

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Recently Prince and Jordan sat down to ask each other questions around black anarchism, their approach to the politic and some critiques.

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PODCAST CHAPTERS

0:00 – 2:00 | Welcome and Introductions to The Dugout

2:01 – 10:30 | Black Anarchism: Revisiting a Radical Vision

10:31 – 20:05 | Defining Black Sovereignty Through Anarchist Lenses

20:06 – 29:50 | New African Anarchism and Critiquing State Power

29:51 – 39:45 | Personal Journeys into Black Anarchism

39:46 – 49:30 | Pan-Africanism, Blackness, and Diaspora Connections

49:31 – 57:10 | Challenges of Building Trust Among Black Radicals

57:11 – 1:05:00 | Black Anarchism’s Role in Global Liberation and Media Work

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In this episode of The Dugout Podcast, I’m diving deep into some heavy truths about the state and the reality of modern fascism. After years of organizing and watching the political landscape shift, it’s become clear to me that the U.S. government—whether under Democrats or Republicans—has consistently used repression, violence, and propaganda to maintain control. And that’s what this episode is all about: breaking down why I believe the state is inherently fascist.

I talk about everything from Kamala Harris’s dangerous rhetoric around militarism to the rise of Cop City and how the state weaponizes violence against Black communities. We’ll also get into necropolitics—how the state literally dictates who lives and dies—and look back at historic examples like COINTELPRO to see how these tactics are still being used against movements today.

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MEDIA MENTIONED

🔗 On Cop Cities: https://isyourlifebetter.net/cop-cities-usa/

🔗 On Necropolitics: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-is-necropolitics | https://anarch.cc/uploads/achille-mbembe/necropolitics.pdf

🔗 George Jackson on Fascism: https://www.blackagendareport.com/transcript-analyzing-correct-method-combating-american-fascism-george-jackson-1971

🔗 1917 US Gas Baths: https://www.vox.com/2019/7/29/8934848/gasoline-baths-border-mexico-dark-history

🔗 STOP THE SWEEPS 614: https://www.instagram.com/stopthesweeps614/

🔗 @lucretia_macevil video on HOW STATE IS LIKE A DOMESTIC ABUSER:

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EPISODE CHAPTERS

00:00 Intro

03:00 The US state is fascist

04:47 Why the DNC was a mess for aligning with Republicans

08:28 The Meme-ification of USA politics as a Smokescreen for state violence

10:38 How Democrats and Republicans are using the same talking points

12:30 The Weaponization of Social Movement language and Black Struggle in US politics

13:22 What is FASCISM + Looking at it through the lens of Anti-Blackness

19:55 Shared Qualities Between FASCISM and ANTI-BLACKNESS

24:13 What is REPRESSION, how it relates to FASCISM, and COINTELPRO

25:50 COINTELPRO and SECURITY CULTURE

27:16 What is NECROPOLITICS and how US democracy is fueled by death

30:00 How MILITARISM is an expression of US FASCISM

32:40 COP CITIES and POLICE MILITARISM as a sign of future repression

36:45 Hurricane Katrina as an expression of ANTI-BLACK VIOLENCE

38:15 Xenophobia as FASCISM and How USA Gas Baths Inspired Hitler

41:20 The Supreme Court making homeless illegal and anti-poor violence

45:17 Interview with Sam of STOP THE SWEEPS on state violence against people without housing

50:40 @lucretia_macevil on How We're In Abusive Relationship With The Government

01:02:53 Why defining US state violence as Fascism matters

01:07:40 Outro

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In this episode, we break down why choosing Kamala Harris as the "lesser evil" isn’t a real solution. We look at her political record and policies, and why settling for less still keeps us stuck in the same old systems. This discussion is crucial for those questioning the effectiveness of traditional voting and wanting to understand why some abolitionists and anarchists are critical of Harris’s candidacy. Tune in to see why the "lesser evil" approach doesn’t work and what other options we have.

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Timestamps:

As the 2024 Democratic National Convention unfolds, we tear apart the cynical ways Black identity is manipulated and weaponized by political elites during election years. This episode confronts the hollow gestures and empty promises that both parties use to exploit Black communities, while the real issues remain unaddressed. From symbolic representation to superficial solidarity, we expose how these tactics serve the interests of power, not the people. We'll also explore why political and media literacy are crucial tools in resisting these manipulations and reclaiming our narratives. Join us for a radical discussion on the urgent need for critical awareness in the face of state and corporate propaganda.

This episode examines James Baldwin’s life, work, and key themes—race, identity, sexuality, and social justice—through Black radical thought and Afro-pessimism. We analyze his revolutionary frustrations in Meeting the Man, My Dungeon Shook, and Talk to Teachers, while exploring his views on socialism and the Black Panthers. Join us for a deep dive into Baldwin’s enduring legacy.

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EPISODE CHAPTERS:Introduction and Overview 0:00 - 1:30James Baldwin’s Political and Social Views 1:31 - 5:00Understanding Black Anarchism 5:01 - 8:30Baldwin’s Influence on Anarchist Thought 8:31 - 12:00Comparing Baldwin’s Views to Modern Anarchist Movements 12:01 - 15:30Key Quotes and Ideas from Baldwin 15:31 - 18:00Contemporary Applications of Baldwin’s Ideas 18:01 - 21:00Conclusion and Reflection 21:01 - 23:00

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Books and Essays by James Baldwin:

The Fire Next Time (1963): https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9780679744726

Notes of a Native Son (1955):

https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9780807006238

The Devil Finds Work (1976):

https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9780307275950

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In this video, I break down common leftist critiques of Kamala Harris. From the feminist hero narrative shaped by identity politics to her controversial prosecutorial record, we dive deep into how the Democratic Party can often serve as another face of repression to social movements. Most importantly, we explore the critical question: Kamala Harris: The Hero We Need or Fascist Threat?

We teamed up with the awesome Lucretia McEvil to chat about Black media, Black anarchist history, and today's social movements. It's a convo you don't want to miss!

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Lucretia'a Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60AfsjXlI0E

To follow Lucretia McEvil:https://www.youtube.com/@lucretia_macevil

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📅 Episode Highlights:

00:51 – We kick things off by discussing our upcoming video essays and the exciting projects we have in the pipeline.

07:01 – Lucretia shares their perspective on conservatism in Black media and reflects on the recent Eric Adams interview on The Breakfast Club, examining the broader impact of Black media on political discourse.

10:39 – We explore key pieces of Black anarchist history that we have the opportunity to understand and document now.

15:55 – The importance of discussing contemporary social movements and anarchist practices takes center stage.

18:39 – We express our desire for deeper revolutionary discussions, both online and offline.

21:27 – Lucretia talks about how common anarchism is among working-class and poor communities.

23:23 – The conversation shifts to the necessity of creating "pockets of liberation" in our society.

24:55 – We discuss the challenges of striving to be anti-capitalist artists and the importance of setting boundaries.

31:30 – A candid discussion on how achieving success within a capitalistic framework often requires moral compromise.

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Let's talk about Biden dropping out of the 2024 presidential race, the threat of neo-liberalism, and what we must do next. #DemocraticParty #kamalaharris

—---------------------------------------------VIDEO CHAPTERS00:00 Intro and Biden Dropping Out of 2024 Presidential Race01:35 Why Democratic Calls For "Unity" Are disingenuous 05:17 Can the Democratic Party Oppose Trump MORALLY?08:47 The path forward is fighting fascism on both sides.🔗 READ MY BOOK... Black Radical Readier I: https://a.co/d/394nMF8

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