Rain Clouds and Silver Linings. Certain Futures host Daniel Stern walks through Milan, recording both hope and apprehension in the streets. His conversations with university researchers reveal forecasts and forewarnings that mirror the mood outside the ivory tower.

Certain Futures: What happens when a European demographic research project asks a Berlin podcaster from the United States to explore their findings?

In this episode Dan's journey into demography takes him to Milan, where he explores working, ageing, and dying with experts at Bocconi University, as well as a few Milanese out enjoying the evening. These anecdotes and expert insights reveal a few paths to building supportive networks and resilient, hopeful futures.

This limited-series podcast is produced by Radio Spaetkauf in collaboration with the FutuRes Project.

The FutuRes Project brings demographers and economists together with policymakers to advance what we know and how we plan for Europe's ageing society. You can find all the FutuRes research and other resources for understanding ageing and resilience in Europe on their website: https://futu-res.eu/ or also follow FutuRes on Linkedin.

Thank you again to the guests in this episode:

• Arnstein Aassve

• Letizia Mencarini

• Aleksandra Torbica

• Plus Valentina and Paolo.

Music by: Partefacts; Lani Bagley, Christa Belle Walley and Craig Schuftan

Artwork by: Andy El Kanani www.andyelkanani.com