Ben Lorica speaks with Hamza Tahir, co-founder of Kitaru, about what it takes to move AI agents from demos to production. They discuss the difference between workflows and agents, why “harness engineering” is becoming a useful frame for application builders, and why long-running agent workloads require orchestration, durable execution, retries, state management, and human-in-the-loop semantics.

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