What happens when we give machines the power to think without ensuring they share our values? This riveting conversation dives deep into one of humanity's most pressing challenges: controlling artificial intelligence as it grows increasingly powerful.

Joined by Roni Abovitz, founder of groundbreaking companies Mako Surgical and Magic Leap, and neuroscientist Dr. Uri Maoz from Chapman University, we explore the profound question of AI intentions. Abovitz introduces a compelling biological metaphor, suggesting we view AI systems not as a monolith but as different "species"—some benign like golden retrievers, others potentially dangerous as velociraptors. This framing helps us understand that the path forward isn't about controlling "AI" but about deliberately creating systems with built-in safeguards and beneficial intentions.

The conversation takes a sobering turn as Dr. Maoz highlights the vast speed differential between human thought and machine processing. "A second to us is two weeks to them," he explains, illustrating why prevention and foresight are essential—by the time we recognize a problem, an advanced AI could have spent the equivalent of months planning countermeasures.

We examine how the global "AI overmatch" race parallels historical arms races, with nations pushing development forward at breakneck speed without adequate safety considerations. Unlike nuclear weapons, which created a mutually-assured destruction dynamic discouraging their use, AI lacks clear restraint mechanisms—and the technology can spread globally within hours once developed.

Despite these challenges, our guests offer hope through emerging efforts to build intentionally benign systems. Abovitz notes that while many developers chase power above all, there exists a "Jedi Rebel Alliance" of technologists committed to creating safe, beneficial AI. His conversations with Fortune 500 CEOs reveal that business leaders overwhelmingly want AI that helps their companies without harming employees or humanity—suggesting potential market pressure for safer development paths.

Listen as we navigate this critical moment in human history and explore what's needed to ensure AI enhances rather than endangers our collective future. The time to shape these technologies with wisdom and foresight is now—before the T-Rex breaks through the fence.

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