On this week’s episode, Jeff and Amber discuss why Meta is in trouble again for choosing user engagement over safety, how divisive X has become, and some disturbing news about sexual deepfakes. Our guest this week is Catherine McKenna, Canada’s former minister of environment and climate change, who joins us to talk about the state of hate online and her new book, Run Like a Girl. In TheOtherMac, Jeff shares everything you need to know about buying conversational AI toys for kids this holiday season and beyond.

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