Al From Forum Borealis joins me for a  conversation about technology and consciousness.

photo by: Skeptiko

(machine generated transcript… very hit or miss :))

0:00 – 0:07 on this episode of Skeptiko oh I think

0:03 – 0:10 the shaman thing may be wrong they may

0:07 – 0:15 be looking at a very underdeveloped

0:10 – 0:17 sense of manipulating aspects of

0:15 – 0:19 consciousness when we look at ancient

0:17 – 0:20 agriculture we say wow they did pretty

0:19 – 0:22 good they had that little stick and they

0:20 – 0:25 drove it in the ground and then they

0:22 – 0:27 stuck a fishin in the with every corn

0:25 – 0:31 seed and it grew hey good for them right

0:27 – 0:34 now we get a hundred times that by doing

0:31 – 0:36 all this kind of manipulation some of it

0:34 – 0:38 good some of it bad but we figured out

0:36 – 0:40 how to do that at a whole different

0:38 – 0:42 level oh I think we’re under impressed

0:40 – 0:44 of course there’s something you fail to

0:42 – 0:47 see in that reasoning look they were

0:44 – 0:48 having archaea consciousness or magical

0:47 – 0:50 mythical depends when we’re talking

0:48 – 0:52 about so that means that they were

0:50 – 0:55 dealing with the same things but they

0:52 – 0:58 were expressing and experiencing

0:55 – 0:60 differently look I said people had a

0:58 – 1:02 different kind of consciousness before

0:60 – 1:05 that means that what they perceive it

1:02 – 1:08 was also different people in nature like

1:05 – 1:11 Oz Norwegians we know the wages are very

1:08 – 1:13 artistic or I should say agnostic we’re

1:11 – 1:17 probably the most secular one of the

1:13 – 1:19 most secular in the world right now but

1:17 – 1:21 all the Weejun when they go to the

1:19 – 1:25 mountains when they go to the forests

1:21 – 1:28 they become extremely humble and they

1:25 – 1:30 connect with something now we prefer the

1:28 – 1:32 technical way to explain it rather than

1:30 – 1:34 the mythical because we lost from that

1:32 – 1:38 part of consciousness but it’s still

1:34 – 1:42 there and we still know about it I’m

1:38 – 1:46 leaning towards the idea that the

1:42 – 1:50 consciousness soul connection is not

1:46 – 1:53 what we think it is it’s not as special

1:50 – 1:58 it’s not as unique it’s more malleable

1:53 – 2:00 than maybe we’ve thought stay with us

1:58 – 2:08 for skeptiko

2:00 – 2:12 [Music]

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2:08 – 2:14 well as promised this week I have a

2:12 – 2:18 little bonus episode of skeptiko and

2:14 – 2:20 that is part two of my interview with al

2:18 – 2:22 borealis from forum borealis you know