7x D3 Champion, Alex Phillip, comes back on the podcast to fill us in on his time at North Carolina.

While the transition to D1 looked easy, Phillip tells us how hard he had to work to get the results that he saw.

He brings a great perspective on how hard the pursuit to greatness can be and how important is to believe in yourself.

Phillip recalls the fall at the National Meet with 900m to go and while he thought he had a chance, he was proud to put himself in position.

No matter where you're at in your running journey, this message will resonate with you.

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