On this episode of the podcast the hosts are joined by outspoken follower of Hotep, Ali Shakur. 'Hotep Jesus', as he likes to be known, explains the philosophy behind the Hotep lifestyle, the problems facing African Americans, and the solutions he believes need to be found within. Roman explores the real concerns facing minority groups versus the superficial narrative seen within social and other popular media, while Jonathan probes some of the collectivist ideas being put forward by the guest. Ali talks about why in his view traditional racism doesn't exist, how the black community are their own worst enemy, and what the real history of slavery and integration has to do with the current socio-economic state of black people.