October 06, 2020

Alisa Childers: The False Gospel of Progressive Christianity + "I Want to Know What Love Is" (Foreigner)

1 hour 4 minutes

Welcome to the first-ever—and probably the only-ever—Three Chords and the Truth episode that’s all about love! So pull up a chair, strap on your headphones, grab your favorite scissors and your red construction paper, and prepare to cut out some romantic paper hearts. (And, by the way, why hasn’t anyone ever named a heavy metal band “Scïssör”?)

One dominant trend in the past decade has been to assume that loving someone requires affirming their lifestyle. As a result, when Christians point out that certain lifestyles are incompatible with Scripture, these Christians are declared to be unloving. The assumption that love requires affirmation has been one hallmark of a movement known as “progressive Christianity”—and that’s what Alisa Childers joins us to talk about in the first half of this week’s episode. Alisa Childers is the author of a new book entitled Another Gospel? A Lifelong Christian Seeks Truth in Response to Progressive Christianity. Alisa is also—Timothy discovers—a fan of one of the many musicians that Garrick has failed to appreciate adequately, Bob Dylan.

In the second half, the dynamic duo digs deeper into love by looking at a song from a band that was once known as “Trigger.” The band is Foreigner, and the song is “I Want to Know What Love Is”—a song that was, according to the initial songwriter, “probably written entirely by a higher force.” In the process of determining what love is (as well as trying to decide whether or not a higher force really wrote the song), Garrick and Timothy explore a book from C.S. Lewis that unpacks four different types of love. Along the way, your intrepid cohosts also discover how Foreigner’s lead vocalist finally found real love after looking for love in all the wrong places.

Another tune from Foreigner—which was apparently written by a lower force instead of a higher force—inspired the Toybox Hero Tournaments at the midpoint of most episodes this season. The song from Foreigner that inspired the Toybox Hero Tournaments was, of course, “Juke Box Hero.” This week’s Toybox Hero Tournament places a Lego version of Galadriel from Timothy’s second child into mortal combat against a ceramic duck named Walter that Garrick has stolen from his oldest daughter. Despite Garrick’s claims to the contrary, Timothy is quite convinced that Walter the Duck is a distant cousin of Howard the Duck—which might have increased Norman’s chances of survival, if Norman had possessed the same Quack-Fu skills as Howard the Duck. Garrick—in a moment of quick thinking in which he inexplicably remembers the theme of this week’s episode—appeals to Galadriel’s love for the creatures of the woodland. Galadriel, thrilled beyond words that love was the theme of this week’s episode, graciously grants Garrick's request and rescues Walter from being roasted by the woodland elves.

The new cover art for this season was created by Dani Wallace (daniwallace.myportfolio.com).

This Week’s Guest

As a lifelong church-goer, follower of Jesus, and former recording artist with the Dove award-winning group ZOEgirl, Alisa Childers experienced a period of profound doubt about her faith in her mid-thirties. Through this season, Alisa began a journey from unreasoned doubt into vibrant, intellectually informed faith. She now engages culture, apologetics, theology, and worship at her blog, https://www.alisachilders.com. Her new book, Another Gospel? A Lifelong Christian Seeks Truth in Response to Progressive Christianity, releases October 2020 (Tyndale Momentum).

Links to Click

B and H Academic

Come Let Us Reason: book edited by Paul Copan and William Lane Craig

Another Gospel?: book by Alisa Childers

America's Changing Religious Landscape: demographic study from Pew Research Center (2015)

Tactics: book by Greg Koukl

Alisa Childers

The Alisa Childers Podcast

Agent Provocateur: album by Foreigner

I Want to Know What Love Is: song by Foreigner

The Four Loves: book by C. S. Lewis

SBTS Preview Day

Urban Ministry Podcast

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