Andrea Pitzer is the author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps, among other books, host of the excellent podcast Next Comes What, and writer and publisher of the newsletter Degenerate Art.

In this podcast we discuss:

* How the ethics of journalism as taught in the U.S. system empower Trump

* The definition of “concentration camp” and if Trump’s camps meet the definition

* Forced labor in Nazi Germany and Trump’s America

* How Trump uses the perception of crisis in America for political gain.

* The economic incentives behind the ICE bonanza and how companies profit from detention systems (in history and now)

* Vladimir Nabokov and what he might think of Trump’s America

* And much more…

Other links:

Andrea Pitzer on How to Get ICE Out of Your Town: text, video.

Nazi Republican candidate for California governor Kyle Langford’s Auschwitz tweet: Screenshot by AuschwitzMuseum.

The Rhyming Chaos podcast is produced by Jeremy Goldkorn and Maria Repnikova, and edited by Cadre Scripts. The theme music is Paper Boy, composed and performed on the guzheng by Wu Fei. Our closing music is Erik Satie’s Gymnopédie No. 1, arranged and performed by Wu Fei. Our cover art is by Li Yunfei.

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