Parliament's Impeachment Committee investigating Phala Phala has met to discuss the draft terms of referece and the appointment of an evidence leader for the committee. President Ramaphosa's physical appearance before the impeachment committee and the vetting of the evidence leader were some of the issues of contention that were debated by members and in this episode we unpack and reflect on the committee's meeting. We also unpack the ANC's alleged decision to withdraw its notice to intervene in the President's panel report review application.