Our guest in this episode is Anna Jankovic and Andre Bonnice from the speculative architecture practice Simulaa. Anna and Andre are registered architects and academics who designed a project for the NGV Architecture Commission as part of the environmentally regenerative movement "A New Normal" called Gas Stack. Even though their submission didn't win the commission, their unbuilt design won the 2022 Architecture Australia Prize for Unbuilt Work. Anna and Andre share what they built into the design of Gas Stack, how working on speculative projects contributes to their emerging practice, and how design research and teaching allow an architecture practice to investigate and explore ideas that might not be possible at the same scale in practice. This interview was conducted by Max Leegal Wight who is an EmAGN representative based in Victoria.