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🔥 Brushing teeth on Shabbos – four primary halachic approaches
– Issue is multi-faceted: **Memareiach**, **Sechitah**, **Hachanah**, **Refuah**, **Melabein**, **Uvdin d’chol**, **Chavalah** are all discussed in the literature.
– **View 1 – Rav Soloveitchik / Rav Hershel Schachter**:
– Permits **normal toothbrushing** on Shabbos with:
– Regular toothpaste
– Wet toothbrush
– Rinsing the toothbrush afterward
– Memareiach: Unlike smoothing a surface, brushing does not **grind down/smooth the teeth themselves**, only removes plaque.
– Hachanah concern (washing toothbrush “for after Shabbos”):
– Rav Schachter said it is **for cleanliness and Shabbos oneg**, not to prepare for after Shabbos (e.g., to avoid spouse being upset at a messy bathroom on Shabbos).
– **View 2 – Rav Ovadia Yosef**:
– Allows **wet toothbrush** and **regular toothpaste**.
– Requires a **designated Shabbos toothbrush** to avoid **Uvdin d’chol** (weekday-like behavior).
– Advises **not washing the toothbrush** afterward due to **Hachanah** concerns.
– **View 3 – Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach / Rav Elyashiv (Rav Elyashiv Weinberg cited)**:
– Forbids **regular toothpaste** due to **Memareiach**.
– Allows **liquid toothpaste**.
– Not particularly concerned with **Sechitah** when using liquid toothpaste.
– **View 4 – Rav Moshe Feinstein** (followed by Rav Willig in practice):
– Forbids using **any paste/gel** due to **Memareiach** when the paste is spread over the teeth.
– Squeezing toothpaste from the tube is **not the issue**; the issue is smoothing it on the teeth.
– Forbids **wetting the toothbrush** before brushing because of **Sechitah**.
– Forbids **washing off the toothbrush** afterward because of **Hachanah** (preparation for post-Shabbos use).
– Recommended method:
– Put **mouthwash** in the mouth.
– Use a **dry toothbrush** to brush while the mouthwash is in the mouth.
– Avoid turning on **hot water** (Bishul concerns).
– Do **not** rinse off the toothbrush after.
💼 Office Mincha with a Gerer chassid who skips Tachanun at Mincha
– **Gerer minhag**: Not to say **Tachanun at Mincha** (ever).
– If the **minyan location “belongs” to the Gerer** (e.g., his office, or he “owns/runs” the place):
– “Ba’al habayis, minhago” – he can set the **minhag of that place**.
– Others generally follow that minhag, as with a Sefardi-run minyan factory where **Birkat Kohanim is daily**; Ashkenazi Kohanim participate since the hosts’ minhag governs.
– If it is **not his space** and the minyan is more “neutral”:
– One person’s private minhag (e.g., a single Gerer) **should not override** the general minhag of the group.
– It is appropriate to have others **daven for the amud** so Tachanun is not regularly dropped.
– Distinction from Rav Shlomo Zalman:
– If a place has a **real minhag not to say Tachanun**, one follows that minhag.
– If Tachanun is skipped **simply to shorten davening** with no minhag basis, one should **say Tachanun** anyway.
🕍 Wearing a tallis over the head – who, when, and where in davening
– **Source and status of Atifa (covering the head with tallis)**:
– Gemara in Kiddushin and Magen Avraham:
– **Unmarried men** do **not** do **Atifas haRosh**.
– Atifa originally associated with **Talmidei Chachamim / distinguished people**.
– Gemara in Berachos: **Kos shel beracha with zimun** requires Atifa.
– By **kal vachomer**, **devarim shebikdusha** (which require a minyan) should also have Atifa.
– Common practice:
– **Shemoneh Esrei** and **Kaddish / Borchu / Kedusha** said with **Atifa** for a married man.
– **Krias Shema and Atifa**:
– Beis Hillel: **“Kol adam korei kidarko”** – Shema can be recited **in whatever body position you are already in**.
– Since one may not insist on a specific **Amidah** (standing) position for Shema, Atifa, which parallels Amidah for devarim shebikdusha, is also **not required**.
– Taz and Midrash: Hashem does **not burden** Klal Yisrael to say Shema specifically **standing and with head covered** as would be required for a royal proclamation; **any posture is acceptable**.
– **Rav Chaim / Brisker minhag as transmitted by Rav Soloveitchik and Rav Schachter**:
– Tallis **over head** (Atifa) for:
– **Kaddish**
– **Borchu**
– **Kedusha**
– **Shemoneh Esrei**
– Tallis **off the head** for:
– **Birchos Krias Shema**
– **Krias Shema** itself
– Reasons:
– Fulfill **“Kol adam korei kidarko”** for Shema.
– Allow **Tefillin shel Rosh and the Kesher** to remain **visible**, in line with “**V’rau kol amei ha’aretz ki Shem Hashem nikra alecha** – these are the Tefillin shel Rosh.”
– **Other devarim shebikdusha** and Atifa:
– In general, **devarim shebikdusha** require **Amidah and Atifa** unless they take the form of a **pasuk or bracha**, in which case the **“Shema model”** applies and they can be without.
– This explains why **kerias haTorah**, though a devar shebikdusha (requires a minyan), does not require standing or Atifa for each listener.
🛏️ Learning Torah while lying down
– Gemara in Berachos: Torah should be learned **“b’eimah, b’yirah, b’retet, u’v’zeiah”** – with awe, seriousness, and exertion.
– Rav Schachter’s father: word is **“zeiah” (sweat)**, not “ze’ah” (trembling), indicating **physical exertion / ameilus**.
– Ideal posture and demeanor should reflect **kavod haTorah** and focused effort, rather than a relaxed, lounging attitude.
– Gemara in Megillah:
– In times of Rabban Gamliel, Torah was learned **standing**; after his death, people weakened and began to learn **sitting**.
– Rashi calls the shift from standing to sitting a **reduction in kavod haTorah**.
– Hence, in principle, **standing** is the highest standard; **sitting** is a concession; **lying down** is a further reduction in formal kavod.
– However, there is also value in **having Torah on one’s mind even when lying down**:
– While resting / going to sleep, it is better to **occupy the mind with Torah** than with nonsense or nothing.
– **Hirhur (thinking) in Divrei Torah** is certainly permissible in any posture.
– Practical balance:
– **Core learning sessions** should be done in a manner reflecting **seriousness and effort** (not lying down).
– When one **already needs to lie down** (e.g., for rest, bedtime), it is positive to **read/think Torah** at that time.
📚 Considering a career in chinuch (Jewish education) vs. financial concerns
– Two simultaneous responsibilities in guidance:
– **Encourage** those who are genuinely suited for chinuch.
– **Discourage** those who are not appropriate for it.
– When a person:
– Has **talent and desire** for chinuch,
– But is **paralyzed by financial uncertainty** and needs a clear, predictable pay path,
– This often reflects either:
– A **lack in bitachon (trust in Hashem)**, or
– A **rigid personality** that cannot tolerate financial ambiguity.
– If one is **unable** to get over this “bitachon hump,” chinuch may **not be a viable path** for that individual.
– Observed outcomes:
– Most people who entered chinuch and were reasonably suited **do not regret it**, and their families had their basic needs met (food, schooling, etc.), though often **without luxuries** such as expensive vacations.
– Some leave chinuch later, but conversely some **leave other careers** (e.g., law) to go **into** chinuch for greater meaning.
– Rav Silver’s practical guidance (re: choosing between law school and chinuch):
– Law: clear, structured **career trajectory**, salary ladder, partner track.
– Chinuch: often **no clear trajectory**, but:
– There can be periods of **significant stability** (e.g., secure positions in schools and shuls).
– One’s actual career path may be **much more expansive** than imagined (e.g., ending up teaching at **Beis Midrash / Semicha level**, which might never have been anticipated).
– Hashkafic point:
– “Those who take care of Hashem’s children, Hashem takes care of them.”
– Communities often **value and seek to support** excellent mechanchim respectfully.
– Broader reality check:
– **No field** is fully secure today; **AI and economic shifts** can destabilize even previously “safe” professions.
– Thus, fear of instability should be weighed against the fact that **other fields also lack guarantees**.
🕯️ Havdalah candle – is a single braided wick acceptable?
– Halachic ideal: **Avukah** for Havdalah.
– Gemara in Pesachim: Mitzvah Min HaMuvchar to use an **avukah**.
– Rambam: defines avukah as **a strong, multi-flame light**.
– Shulchan Aruch (O.C. 298:2):
– “Mitzvah min hamuvchar le’varech al avukah.”
– If one does not have an avukah, some say to **light a second candle and join them**.
– Rema: **Any candle with two wicks** already has the halachic status of an **avukah**.
– Mishnah Berurah: **Better** for the avukah to be a **wax candle**, but still focused on having **multiple wicks**.
– Status of a **single braided wick**:
– Technically, the bracha on the fire is **on any visible flame**, so one can be yotzei with a **single flame**.
– However, the **“mitzvah min hamuvchar”** is specifically a multi-wick avukah.
– A single braided wick is **not** an avukah in the strict sense, but it does provide **a larger, more substantial flame** than a thin single wick.
– Therefore:
– One **fulfills Havdalah** with such a candle.
– But le’chatchila, a **two-wick candle** is preferred to fulfill the **ideal of avukah**.
🎄 Buying kosher foods with non-Jewish holiday themes (e.g., “Christmas tree” cookies)
– Products like **kosher Christmas-themed cookies** are common in Western markets.
– Halachic core:
– They are **not actual avodah zarah** and not direct **korbanos / offerings** to avodah zarah.
– Primarily a **marketing and design choice** tapping into local culture and season.
– Discomfort vs. prohibition:
– Many would find **hosting or serving** such items (e.g., “Merry Christmas” napkins) in a shul or Jewish home **inappropriate** due to the **religious messaging and symbolism**.
– However, issuing a blanket **issur** is difficult because the item itself is not a religious act nor a direct support of avodah zarah.
– Practical:
– Halachically **not clearly forbidden**.
– Best practice in many communities: **avoid** overt Christmas-themed items out of **kavod Yisrael and distance from foreign religious imagery**.
📜 Violating website “Terms of Service” (ToS) – halachic status
– When a user clicks **“I agree”**:
– This creates a **binding commitment** under **“hin shel tzedek”**:
– Torah requires one’s **“yes” to be a real yes** and one’s **“no” to be no**; obligations created by one’s declarations and clicks must be honored.
– **Intellectual property** aspects:
– Many ToS are designed to protect **copyrights, usage rights, and proprietary data**.
– Rav Willig’s approach (as reported): these are governed by **Dina deMalchusa Dina** (the law of the land).
– If secular law recognizes the ToS and protects the company’s intellectual property, **halacha obligates compliance** via Dina deMalchusa.
– Conclusion:
– Intentionally violating ToS after agreeing is **halachically problematic** due to:
– **Breaking one’s word (“hin tzedek”)**.
– **Violating Dina deMalchusa** in areas such as IP and contract law.
📖 When Mishnah Berurah brings a dispute – how should a layperson decide?
– **Baseline**:
– Most of halacha (**“99%”**) is non-controversial; learning Shulchan Aruch and Mishnah Berurah gives strong guidance on the majority of cases.
– When encountering a **machlokes** in the Mishnah Berurah:
– Step 1: **Check minhag ha’olam**:
– See how **frum communities actually practice** in that situation.
– If there is a consistent minhag, that is often the **default path**.
– Step 2: If **no obvious minhag** (rare/special case):
– Ask **your Rebbe / Rav**; that is what Rebbeim are for.
– Step 3: For someone who **themselves is a Rebbe / Rav**:
– Even then, one ideally consults **older Rebbeim** when possible.
– Where that is not possible, one investigates **sources and seforim**, understands **each side’s reasoning**, and decides based on the **stronger argument and weighting of authorities**.
🎧 Are mosh pits “Chukas HaGoyim”?
– **Definition** (dictionary): Area near a stage where people **jump, thrash, and deliberately collide** while listening to music.
– Halachic framework of **Chukas HaGoyim**:
– **Smag**: Practices that are **“Me’yuchad lahem”** (distinctly theirs) are problematic.
– **Gra**: Focus on practices tied to **idolatrous worship** (e.g., trees in churches).
– **Maharik / Beis Yosef**:
– Two main issues:
– Acts of **Pritzus** (licentiousness).
– Practices **with no rational explanation** – suspected **remnants of avodah zarah**.
– If there is **no logical reason**, assume it may be **idolatry-based**.
– Applying this to **mosh pits**:
– Origins: late **197s Southern California punk scene**, later spreading to Washington, D.C., Boston, New York, and into metal, grunge, EDM, and hip-hop.
– Purpose: a **high-energy, intense physical expression** of the music for youth with lots of energy; essentially a **social/entertainment phenomenon**, not a religious ritual.
– Therefore, it does **not appear to be rooted in avodah zarah**.
– As such, it is probably **not Chukas HaGoyim** in the strict halachic sense.
– Other halachic and hashkafic issues:
– Documented as being **violent** enough that:
– Some venues **ban** it.
– Some performers have been **arrested** for inciting it.
– Injuries and property damage can occur.
– Halachically:
– **Assur to harm others** or put them in **unreasonable danger**.
– If damage occurs (e.g., torn clothing, injuries), there may be issues of **nezek** (damages).
– There is a possible argument of **implicit mechilah / assumption of risk** (similar to Purim damage halachos) where everyone entering knows and accepts the risk, but that is a complex Choshen Mishpat discussion.
– Hashkafically and practically:
– Even if not Chukas HaGoyim, it is likely **not an appropriate practice** to organize or join, given **violence, danger, and lack of refinement**.
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🔥 Brushing teeth on Shabbos – four primary halachic approaches
– Issue is multi-faceted: **Memareiach**, **Sechitah**, **Hachanah**, **Refuah**, **Melabein**, **Uvdin d’chol**, **Chavalah** are all discussed in the literature.
– **View 1 – Rav Soloveitchik / Rav Hershel Schachter**:
– Permits **normal toothbrushing** on Shabbos with:
– Regular toothpaste
– Wet toothbrush
– Rinsing the toothbrush afterward
– Memareiach: Unlike smoothing a surface, brushing does not **grind down/smooth the teeth themselves**, only removes plaque.
– Hachanah concern (washing toothbrush “for after Shabbos”):
– Rav Schachter said it is **for cleanliness and Shabbos oneg**, not to prepare for after Shabbos (e.g., to avoid spouse being upset at a messy bathroom on Shabbos).
– **View 2 – Rav Ovadia Yosef**:
– Allows **wet toothbrush** and **regular toothpaste**.
– Requires a **designated Shabbos toothbrush** to avoid **Uvdin d’chol** (weekday-like behavior).
– Advises **not washing the toothbrush** afterward due to **Hachanah** concerns.
– **View 3 – Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach / Rav Elyashiv (Rav Elyashiv Weinberg cited)**:
– Forbids **regular toothpaste** due to **Memareiach**.
– Allows **liquid toothpaste**.
– Not particularly concerned with **Sechitah** when using liquid toothpaste.
– **View 4 – Rav Moshe Feinstein** (followed by Rav Willig in practice):
– Forbids using **any paste/gel** due to **Memareiach** when the paste is spread over the teeth.
– Squeezing toothpaste from the tube is **not the issue**; the issue is smoothing it on the teeth.
– Forbids **wetting the toothbrush** before brushing because of **Sechitah**.
– Forbids **washing off the toothbrush** afterward because of **Hachanah** (preparation for post-Shabbos use).
– Recommended method:
– Put **mouthwash** in the mouth.
– Use a **dry toothbrush** to brush while the mouthwash is in the mouth.
– Avoid turning on **hot water** (Bishul concerns).
– Do **not** rinse off the toothbrush after.
💼 Office Mincha with a Gerer chassid who skips Tachanun at Mincha
– **Gerer minhag**: Not to say **Tachanun at Mincha** (ever).
– If the **minyan location “belongs” to the Gerer** (e.g., his office, or he “owns/runs” the place):
– “Ba’al habayis, minhago” – he can set the **minhag of that place**.
– Others generally follow that minhag, as with a Sefardi-run minyan factory where **Birkat Kohanim is daily**; Ashkenazi Kohanim participate since the hosts’ minhag governs.
– If it is **not his space** and the minyan is more “neutral”:
– One person’s private minhag (e.g., a single Gerer) **should not override** the general minhag of the group.
– It is appropriate to have others **daven for the amud** so Tachanun is not regularly dropped.
– Distinction from Rav Shlomo Zalman:
– If a place has a **real minhag not to say Tachanun**, one follows that minhag.
– If Tachanun is skipped **simply to shorten davening** with no minhag basis, one should **say Tachanun** anyway.
🕍 Wearing a tallis over the head – who, when, and where in davening
– **Source and status of Atifa (covering the head with tallis)**:
– Gemara in Kiddushin and Magen Avraham:
– **Unmarried men** do **not** do **Atifas haRosh**.
– Atifa originally associated with **Talmidei Chachamim / distinguished people**.
– Gemara in Berachos: **Kos shel beracha with zimun** requires Atifa.
– By **kal vachomer**, **devarim shebikdusha** (which require a minyan) should also have Atifa.
– Common practice:
– **Shemoneh Esrei** and **Kaddish / Borchu / Kedusha** said with **Atifa** for a married man.
– **Krias Shema and Atifa**:
– Beis Hillel: **“Kol adam korei kidarko”** – Shema can be recited **in whatever body position you are already in**.
– Since one may not insist on a specific **Amidah** (standing) position for Shema, Atifa, which parallels Amidah for devarim shebikdusha, is also **not required**.
– Taz and Midrash: Hashem does **not burden** Klal Yisrael to say Shema specifically **standing and with head covered** as would be required for a royal proclamation; **any posture is acceptable**.
– **Rav Chaim / Brisker minhag as transmitted by Rav Soloveitchik and Rav Schachter**:
– Tallis **over head** (Atifa) for:
– **Kaddish**
– **Borchu**
– **Kedusha**
– **Shemoneh Esrei**
– Tallis **off the head** for:
– **Birchos Krias Shema**
– **Krias Shema** itself
– Reasons:
– Fulfill **“Kol adam korei kidarko”** for Shema.
– Allow **Tefillin shel Rosh and the Kesher** to remain **visible**, in line with “**V’rau kol amei ha’aretz ki Shem Hashem nikra alecha** – these are the Tefillin shel Rosh.”
– **Other devarim shebikdusha** and Atifa:
– In general, **devarim shebikdusha** require **Amidah and Atifa** unless they take the form of a **pasuk or bracha**, in which case the **“Shema model”** applies and they can be without.
– This explains why **kerias haTorah**, though a devar shebikdusha (requires a minyan), does not require standing or Atifa for each listener.
🛏️ Learning Torah while lying down
– Gemara in Berachos: Torah should be learned **“b’eimah, b’yirah, b’retet, u’v’zeiah”** – with awe, seriousness, and exertion.
– Rav Schachter’s father: word is **“zeiah” (sweat)**, not “ze’ah” (trembling), indicating **physical exertion / ameilus**.
– Ideal posture and demeanor should reflect **kavod haTorah** and focused effort, rather than a relaxed, lounging attitude.
– Gemara in Megillah:
– In times of Rabban Gamliel, Torah was learned **standing**; after his death, people weakened and began to learn **sitting**.
– Rashi calls the shift from standing to sitting a **reduction in kavod haTorah**.
– Hence, in principle, **standing** is the highest standard; **sitting** is a concession; **lying down** is a further reduction in formal kavod.
– However, there is also value in **having Torah on one’s mind even when lying down**:
– While resting / going to sleep, it is better to **occupy the mind with Torah** than with nonsense or nothing.
– **Hirhur (thinking) in Divrei Torah** is certainly permissible in any posture.
– Practical balance:
– **Core learning sessions** should be done in a manner reflecting **seriousness and effort** (not lying down).
– When one **already needs to lie down** (e.g., for rest, bedtime), it is positive to **read/think Torah** at that time.
📚 Considering a career in chinuch (Jewish education) vs. financial concerns
– Two simultaneous responsibilities in guidance:
– **Encourage** those who are genuinely suited for chinuch.
– **Discourage** those who are not appropriate for it.
– When a person:
– Has **talent and desire** for chinuch,
– But is **paralyzed by financial uncertainty** and needs a clear, predictable pay path,
– This often reflects either:
– A **lack in bitachon (trust in Hashem)**, or
– A **rigid personality** that cannot tolerate financial ambiguity.
– If one is **unable** to get over this “bitachon hump,” chinuch may **not be a viable path** for that individual.
– Observed outcomes:
– Most people who entered chinuch and were reasonably suited **do not regret it**, and their families had their basic needs met (food, schooling, etc.), though often **without luxuries** such as expensive vacations.
– Some leave chinuch later, but conversely some **leave other careers** (e.g., law) to go **into** chinuch for greater meaning.
– Rav Silver’s practical guidance (re: choosing between law school and chinuch):
– Law: clear, structured **career trajectory**, salary ladder, partner track.
– Chinuch: often **no clear trajectory**, but:
– There can be periods of **significant stability** (e.g., secure positions in schools and shuls).
– One’s actual career path may be **much more expansive** than imagined (e.g., ending up teaching at **Beis Midrash / Semicha level**, which might never have been anticipated).
– Hashkafic point:
– “Those who take care of Hashem’s children, Hashem takes care of them.”
– Communities often **value and seek to support** excellent mechanchim respectfully.
– Broader reality check:
– **No field** is fully secure today; **AI and economic shifts** can destabilize even previously “safe” professions.
– Thus, fear of instability should be weighed against the fact that **other fields also lack guarantees**.
🕯️ Havdalah candle – is a single braided wick acceptable?
– Halachic ideal: **Avukah** for Havdalah.
– Gemara in Pesachim: Mitzvah Min HaMuvchar to use an **avukah**.
– Rambam: defines avukah as **a strong, multi-flame light**.
– Shulchan Aruch (O.C. 298:2):
– “Mitzvah min hamuvchar le’varech al avukah.”
– If one does not have an avukah, some say to **light a second candle and join them**.
– Rema: **Any candle with two wicks** already has the halachic status of an **avukah**.
– Mishnah Berurah: **Better** for the avukah to be a **wax candle**, but still focused on having **multiple wicks**.
– Status of a **single braided wick**:
– Technically, the bracha on the fire is **on any visible flame**, so one can be yotzei with a **single flame**.
– However, the **“mitzvah min hamuvchar”** is specifically a multi-wick avukah.
– A single braided wick is **not** an avukah in the strict sense, but it does provide **a larger, more substantial flame** than a thin single wick.
– Therefore:
– One **fulfills Havdalah** with such a candle.
– But le’chatchila, a **two-wick candle** is preferred to fulfill the **ideal of avukah**.
🎄 Buying kosher foods with non-Jewish holiday themes (e.g., “Christmas tree” cookies)
– Products like **kosher Christmas-themed cookies** are common in Western markets.
– Halachic core:
– They are **not actual avodah zarah** and not direct **korbanos / offerings** to avodah zarah.
– Primarily a **marketing and design choice** tapping into local culture and season.
– Discomfort vs. prohibition:
– Many would find **hosting or serving** such items (e.g., “Merry Christmas” napkins) in a shul or Jewish home **inappropriate** due to the **religious messaging and symbolism**.
– However, issuing a blanket **issur** is difficult because the item itself is not a religious act nor a direct support of avodah zarah.
– Practical:
– Halachically **not clearly forbidden**.
– Best practice in many communities: **avoid** overt Christmas-themed items out of **kavod Yisrael and distance from foreign religious imagery**.
📜 Violating website “Terms of Service” (ToS) – halachic status
– When a user clicks **“I agree”**:
– This creates a **binding commitment** under **“hin shel tzedek”**:
– Torah requires one’s **“yes” to be a real yes** and one’s **“no” to be no**; obligations created by one’s declarations and clicks must be honored.
– **Intellectual property** aspects:
– Many ToS are designed to protect **copyrights, usage rights, and proprietary data**.
– Rav Willig’s approach (as reported): these are governed by **Dina deMalchusa Dina** (the law of the land).
– If secular law recognizes the ToS and protects the company’s intellectual property, **halacha obligates compliance** via Dina deMalchusa.
– Conclusion:
– Intentionally violating ToS after agreeing is **halachically problematic** due to:
– **Breaking one’s word (“hin tzedek”)**.
– **Violating Dina deMalchusa** in areas such as IP and contract law.
📖 When Mishnah Berurah brings a dispute – how should a layperson decide?
– **Baseline**:
– Most of halacha (**“99%”**) is non-controversial; learning Shulchan Aruch and Mishnah Berurah gives strong guidance on the majority of cases.
– When encountering a **machlokes** in the Mishnah Berurah:
– Step 1: **Check minhag ha’olam**:
– See how **frum communities actually practice** in that situation.
– If there is a consistent minhag, that is often the **default path**.
– Step 2: If **no obvious minhag** (rare/special case):
– Ask **your Rebbe / Rav**; that is what Rebbeim are for.
– Step 3: For someone who **themselves is a Rebbe / Rav**:
– Even then, one ideally consults **older Rebbeim** when possible.
– Where that is not possible, one investigates **sources and seforim**, understands **each side’s reasoning**, and decides based on the **stronger argument and weighting of authorities**.
🎧 Are mosh pits “Chukas HaGoyim”?
– **Definition** (dictionary): Area near a stage where people **jump, thrash, and deliberately collide** while listening to music.
– Halachic framework of **Chukas HaGoyim**:
– **Smag**: Practices that are **“Me’yuchad lahem”** (distinctly theirs) are problematic.
– **Gra**: Focus on practices tied to **idolatrous worship** (e.g., trees in churches).
– **Maharik / Beis Yosef**:
– Two main issues:
– Acts of **Pritzus** (licentiousness).
– Practices **with no rational explanation** – suspected **remnants of avodah zarah**.
– If there is **no logical reason**, assume it may be **idolatry-based**.
– Applying this to **mosh pits**:
– Origins: late **197s Southern California punk scene**, later spreading to Washington, D.C., Boston, New York, and into metal, grunge, EDM, and hip-hop.
– Purpose: a **high-energy, intense physical expression** of the music for youth with lots of energy; essentially a **social/entertainment phenomenon**, not a religious ritual.
– Therefore, it does **not appear to be rooted in avodah zarah**.
– As such, it is probably **not Chukas HaGoyim** in the strict halachic sense.
– Other halachic and hashkafic issues:
– Documented as being **violent** enough that:
– Some venues **ban** it.
– Some performers have been **arrested** for inciting it.
– Injuries and property damage can occur.
– Halachically:
– **Assur to harm others** or put them in **unreasonable danger**.
– If damage occurs (e.g., torn clothing, injuries), there may be issues of **nezek** (damages).
– There is a possible argument of **implicit mechilah / assumption of risk** (similar to Purim damage halachos) where everyone entering knows and accepts the risk, but that is a complex Choshen Mishpat discussion.
– Hashkafically and practically:
– Even if not Chukas HaGoyim, it is likely **not an appropriate practice** to organize or join, given **violence, danger, and lack of refinement**.

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