Police now say Nancy Guthrie — the mother of Today show anchor Savannah Guthrie — was abducted from her home against her will. Investigators confirm DNA evidence was found, and Apple Watch data shows her pacemaker stopped syncing around 2 A.M., possibly pinpointing when she was taken.

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