Our guest in this episode is April McCabe who is a town planner and the director of social strategy and engagement at the Planning Studio and the former Policy Manager and Principal Policy Advisor to the Lord Mayor of Sydney. April shares how her background in geography shaped her understanding of placemaking, how empathy informs the design of cities for all people, and the importance of balancing streetscapes and public open space with growing city skylines. This interview is conducted by Sally Hsu who is an EmAGN committee member based in New South Wales.