In this episode of the NCG Top 100s Podcast, host Tom Irwin and NCG Top 100s chairman Dan Murphy take on one of the game’s most heated debates: with scores plummeting and Tour pros overpowering classic layouts, what can be done to restore the challenge?

With the golf rollback and the wider distance debate dominating headlines over the past year, Tom and Dan look beyond equipment to explore architectural and strategic ways to test the very best players in the world. They discuss how modern professionals are making even elite venues appear surprisingly straightforward — and why the gap between the average golfer’s experience and a Tour pro’s reality has never been wider.

This episode digs into how course architecture can evolve to keep up with modern athleticism — and how the sport can strike the right balance between fairness, excitement, and genuine challenge for the world’s best players.

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