As the Democratic candidate debates begin, here's my March 2018 conversation with ARLIE HOCHSCHILD. In her book, STRANGERS IN THEIR OWN LAND, based on five years research in Southern Louisiana, she asks, why residents of the nation's second poorest state vote for candidates who resist federal help? Why, when corporations devastate their lives and their land, do they most hate the government? And I ask, how can we come up with a story that can change their minds? Listen to get a sense of what we're up against in 2020.