Art Ladders: The Creative Climb

Art Ladders: The Creative Climb

By Valerie Allen and Armin MersmannArts
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Art Ladders: The Creative Climb episodes

  • Episode 64: Word of the Year for 2024

    Art Ladders is excited to announce that 2024 will be guided by the word, prosper. We intend to flourish and thrive by creating new habits that will benefit our art, finances and health.

    In this episode a review of habits to help us prosper will be examined. We talk about the importance of planning ahead and dreaming big. A practical list of doable habits is attributed to, Ruben Chavez, who maintains the Instagram page, @thinkgrowprosper. There will be a Pinterest link to the list in our show notes.

    Well, it's a brand new year and we are looking forward to sharing our journey with you all. Our studio is expanding and by springtime there will be a gallery space that will be open by appointment. Keep an eye on our Facebook page for announcements regarding this progress.

    Let us know your plans for 2024. We can keep each other accountable while showing support. It's going to be a great year!

    Show Notes

    Ruben Chavez's Instagram Page

    Book by Litsa Spano: Secrets of the Art World

    Pinterest link of "Habits to Help You Prosper" List by Ruben Chavez

    Valerie's Second Sunday of the Month Mentoring Group

    Armin's First Tuesday of the Month Mentoring Group


    48 min
  • Episode 63: A Bucket Full of Questions with Val and Armin

    With over 30 questions collected over that past years of the podcast, Val and Armin draw five specific questions from their sunflower bowl to answer in this end-of-the-year episode.

    Diving in to teaching and communication styles of artists to keeping a budget, you will learn areas that artists need to know for success. Val and Armin are very honest in what they do best and what they need to work on.....think budget.

    By showing vulnerability, they are honest about imposter syndrome appearing during tough times and how they handle advice that may not be welcomed at the time but prove to be correct in the future.

    Enjoy this episode and Art Ladders with Val and Armin wish you all a very happy holiday and peaceful New Year for 2024. Thank you for all your support of Art Ladders and our art careers.


    Here is our Linktree Bio with more information.


    47 min
  • Episode 62: Chasing the Deadline

    We have spent the last few days working on the exhibit, Contemporary Realism with artists Frits Hoendervanger, Robert Shefman, Todd Burroughs and curated by Armin for Buckham Gallery in Flint. Armin and I work as a team for these major events in our lives. There is framing, marketing, delivery and just overall hard work involved in reaching the deadline. Being under pressure and maintaining a sane and cordial married life can be challenging. During this podcast we work through some of the emotions we go thru during the rush to complete the tasks. Deadlines are a fact of life for artists working toward goals and hopefully you will get some tips on how to go with flow.

    Armin's exhibit opens Friday, December 8 from 6-9pm at Buckham Gallery in Flint. There is an Artwork that will be happening the same evening. Hope to see you there.

    Show Notes:

    Buckham Gallery Website

    December Artwork Downtown Flint

    Armin Mersmann's Website

    Valerie's Mentor Group




    33 min
  • Episode 61: Conversation with Michele Leclaire of Buckham Gallery
    Buckham Gallery has a rich history with strong connections to working artists. We are joined by executive director, Michele Leclaire and she will tells us about the behind the scenes workings of this art nonprofit that is innovative and artist-centric. She explains how nonprofits can give a voice to artists who are experimental and often cutting edge through grants and foundations designed to showcase emerging, mid-career, and established artists. The gallery encompasses exhibits for visual artists as well as literary residencies and performing arts performances Learn more about how to apply for solo and group shows, juried exhibits opportunities, and how to consider joining the board of a nonprofit. Michele and Armin will also discuss the upcoming Contemporary Realism: Four Artists/Four Voices. The exhibit will open Friday, December 8, 2023 from 6-9pm. This reception is open to the public. The show runs through January 13, 2024. The gallery is open Wednesday to Friday, 11am-5pm and Saturday, Noon-5pm. ​
    Here is contact information for Buckham Gallery.
    121 W Second Street​Flint, MI 48502(810) [email protected]
    Show notes
    Buckham Gallery Website
    48 min
  • Episode 60: Being Personal with Your Creative Process

    Looking within and revealing the personal reasons you create art can be a meaningful way to connect with your collectors, audience and yourself. Art is influenced by so many subtle interactions in our day to day life and it is worth making note of those experiences and weaving them into your story.

    Armin and I were recently inspired by an Instagram reel we viewed from @SAB.GalleryCollection. It featured producer and author, Rick Rubin. He is the author of the 2023 release titled "The Creative Way: A Way of Being". In the video, Rick explains (and I'm paraphrasing), "If you want to live in a creative way, which will benefit everything in your life, you need to make it great by being personal. Being personal in all its imperfections and all its quirkiness, makes it great and how you see the world". This theme resonated with us both.

    By taking a cue from this riff by Rick Rubin, we discussed how being more personal has made an appearance in our own art. Were there opportunities we missed by not revealing ourselves, of course there have been some. But when we made the leap to follow our hearts, be authentic, and have the courage to reveal the real reasons, we made ground in our art making.

    We are hoping this episode that artists will be conscious of when they are making their art with their personality, tastes and backgrounds in the forefront. Stronger art will come out of those sessions and courage will lead to rewards.

    Some show notes from the episode:

    Rick Rubin: "The Creative Act: A Way of Being"

    @SAB.GalleryCollection

    Armin's Mastrius Mentor Group Open to Join

    Valerie's mastrius Mentor Group Open to Join

    Art Ladders Patreon Page for Podcast Membership Support

    Give us a cup of symbolic coffee if this episode resonates with you! :)


    1 hr 2 min
  • Episode 59: Conversation with Art Writer and Storyteller John Seed

    On Tuesday, October 17, 2023, we had the honor and pleasure to interview author, ⁠⁠John Seed ⁠⁠via Zoom from his home base on the Central California Coast. He defines himself as an art writer and we would add storyteller with rich experiences in the world of art that tell all the sides of the art coin. From taking the path of an art student, to MFA, to gallery driver, collector, curator, installation team member, art professor, to author, he has done it all and uses all the facets to his advantage in his writings. 

    He has written for the art section of Huffington Post, Hyperallergic, a round the clock online art newsletter, Arts of Asia and other fine publications. His books include My Art World: Recollections and Other Writings, ⁠⁠Disrupted Realism: Paintings for a Distracted World⁠⁠, and his most recent book ⁠⁠More Disruption: Representational Art in Flux⁠⁠. He was the recipient of a Society of Professional Journalist's award in art and entertainment writing. 

    For over three decades John Seed taught Studio Art and Art History at Mount San Jacinto College. He also taught Modernism at Art Center College of Design in Pasadena and Theory and Criticism for the MFA program at Laguna College of Art and Design. Since 2013 John has served on the board of the ⁠⁠Sam Francis Foundation⁠⁠ and am currently serving as the President of ⁠⁠Greenspace: The Cambria Land Trust.⁠⁠

    Here is a video interview with John Seed titled ⁠⁠"My Non-Tragic Backstory".⁠⁠

    John is also teaching an online class called ⁠⁠Art Criticism for Artists⁠⁠ through the Penn Studio School of Art. Val will be taking this class starting in January and is looking forward to hearing more from John. Check out the link above to learn more about this class. 

    Thank you, John for spending time with us and sharing your knowledge and stories. By the way, he invites our audience to email him at [email protected] with questions and comments on any of his books. He is generous and kind with his correspondence and you will be richer by sharing an email with him. Enjoy this episode! 


    54 min
  • Episode 58: Making a Living as an Artist


    Val and Armin's experience highlights an important issue for artists looking for work that allows them to pursue their creative passions. While jobs in art-related professions can provide valuable experience and insights into the art world, they can also be demanding and time-consuming, leaving little time and energy for personal artistic pursuits.

    Here are some additional points to consider when seeking employment as an artist:

    • Consider part-time or freelance work: If you're looking for a job that will allow you to continue creating art, consider part-time or freelance work that can be done on a flexible schedule. This can give you the time and space you need to focus on your artistic practice.
    • Look for jobs with creative flexibility: While some art-related jobs can be restrictive in terms of creative freedom, there are others that offer more flexibility. For example, working as a graphic designer or illustrator can allow you to exercise your creative skills while also earning a steady income.
    • Don't be afraid to explore non-art related jobs: As Armin mentioned, sometimes it can be easier to have a job that is completely unrelated to art, in order to leave time and energy for your personal artistic pursuits. Don't be afraid to explore non-art related jobs that offer a steady income and a reasonable work-life balance.
    • Network with other artists: Building relationships with other artists can be a great way to learn about job opportunities and get advice on how to balance work and art. Attend local art events, join online communities, and participate in workshops and classes to meet other artists and expand your network.
    • Prioritize self-care: No matter what kind of job you have, it's important to prioritize self-care in order to maintain your energy and creativity. Make time for rest and relaxation, and don't hesitate to seek support from friends, family, or mental health professionals when needed.
    • Val and Armin enjoy using a casual "coffee talk" style in this episode that includes spontaneous and personal segments. They invite their audience to share their job experiences, which can benefit aspiring artists and provide interesting stories for those already in the field.

      Thank you for listening! 

      Show Notes:

      Valerie Allen's Website

      Armin Mersmann's Website

      Join Valerie's Mentor Group (Second Sunday of Every Month 4pm Eastern.)

      Join Armin's Mentor Group (First Tuesday of the Every Month 6pm Eastern.)

      Here Is Fong Choo's website. He is an award winning potter who does beautiful clay work. Val was thrilled to help pick up his work for an exhibit at Midland Center for the Arts.


      1 hr
    • Episode 57: Conversation with artist Kristen Palana

      Lilongwe, Malawi in Southeastern Africa is indeed a long, long way away and we are happy to travel over the Zoom waves to visit with artist, designer, educator and mentor, Kristen Palana. Valerie met Kristen virtually a few months ago as a student in Kristen's Web Presence and Social Media Marketing class through Mastrius.com. Through Mastius, Kristen, Armin and Val are now colleague mentors with many other artists across the globe. It's a great opportunity to bring collective art knowledge to our podcast.

      Kristen's artist statement is rich with optimism and positivity contrasted with bringing awareness to the reality of our planet.

      “I draw the world not as it is but how I wish it could be. Inspired by the lofty mission statements and development goals used by the world's top organizations, my images can be used to imagine better outcomes for our lives, communities, and the planet. I'm currently developing a body of drawings that move beyond making creative visualizations at the individual level to expand to include the larger global community.

      I use symbols, icons, and patterns with cross-cultural significance combined with color psychology to help soothe, heal, and reinvigorate weary idealists. My backgrounds are not always content to remain quietly in the background. Through highly charged color choices, energetic lines, and regional and global textile patterns commonly made by and for women, these backgrounds sometimes ask nicely and other times demand with exasperation to be seen, heard, accepted, and appreciated.” - Kristen Palana

      You will hear Kristen describe how this is a "move year" for their family. It is the year where they find out the next adventurous location they will live and make home. That process can be daunting and exhilarating but always unpredictable. She and her husband are providing a lifestyle for their sons that will send them into adult life well prepared to adapt and excel. Very exciting times ahead for Kristen! We wish her all the very best.

      Here are show notes to learn even more about Kristen Palana and her art and life.

      Kristen Palana's Website

      Kristen's Mastrius Information

      Al-Tiba9 Contemporary Art Interview with Kristen Palana

      1 hr 4 min
    • Episode 56: Comparing Yourself to Others

      Comparing yourself to other artists means that you are evaluating your own abilities, qualities, or achievements in relation to those of artists. This can involve looking at someone who you perceive as better than you in some way, or someone who you believe is worse off than you in some aspect. This type of comparison can have both positive and negative effects on your self-esteem and personal growth. On one hand, it can motivate you as an artist to work harder and strive for self-improvement. On the other hand, it can lead to feelings of inadequacy, jealousy, and low self-esteem if you constantly feel like you're falling short in comparison to others. It's important to remember that everyone is on their own journey and has their own unique strengths and weaknesses, so it's not always helpful to compare yourself to others. Instead, focus on your own progress and growth, and celebrate your successes along the way.

      Show Notes

      Upcoming Mentorship Group with Val starting October 8th

      Join Armin's Mentorship Group here.

      Val's Abstraction Now! Class starts October 4th. Register here

      Website of Denis Peterson

      Website of Erwin Lewandowski




      51 min
    • Episode 55: Conversation with Larry Butcher

      On a beautiful August afternoon we had the pleasure to talk with artist and mentor, Larry Butcher. This conversation proceeds to tell a story of a young man coming to age on a rural Michigan farm with a father who expected his children to be navigators of inventive thinking and a mother who encouraged her young ones to be makers. Creative thinking and hard work was the norm and from that Larry became a visual artist and art educator, who to this day believes in the sharing of artistic knowledge.

      Larry Butcher has a Bachelor of Science and Master of Arts in Education from Central Michigan University and continued art studies at Cranbrook Academy of Art in Detroit. His background includes sign painting, teaching art in the Mount Pleasant School System as well as a long career as professor of art at Delta College. In the episode you will hear Larry speak of his amazing connections to artists Charles Breed and Russell Thayer, who both shaped Larry's position at Delta College which went for a 39 year run.

      He is well-known as a prolific painter who developed unique shaped canvas paintings as well as wonderful drawings as an amazing draughtsman. He has work in many corporate and private collections. We will be posting images on our Art Ladders: The Creative Climb Facebook Page.





      1 hr 7 min

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