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Today the girlies are back and Jacques asks, do you ever feel like you're Anti Anti-Ageing? Where we're taking on the multi-billion dollar anti-aging industry. Every day, we're bombarded with ads promising to turn back the clock, to smooth out wrinkles and erase lines. But who is really benefitting from our insecurities and .... who gets to actually age?

Phoebe screams about sueing all the men that make us feel bad about ourselves and how patriarchy really does hurt men the most.

We chat about wrinkles and sagging skin, grey hair in your 20's and getting "preventative botox" in your 30's! and exploring the sometimes bizarre treatments that people are turning to in the name of "youth" (colonial appeal 😎) The marketing tactics that make us all feel like we're not young enough or beautiful enough, and who gets to "look good".

Tune in to this episode of Do You Ever Feel Like- it might just change the way you think about aging.

PLUS! Grandma's, Phoebe's new career as a pet nurse for sad baby pets and Jacque's Adventures and "slurpy pics"

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DYEFL is produced by Jacqueline Wills and Phoebe Taylor.

PATREON

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This week Phoebe asks: Do you ever feel like...being in your capitalist girl boss era? The girlies discuss their ever evolving relationship to work, running a business, work life balance, and the girl boss era's negative impact on women. They discuss the martyrdom grind, the intersections of capitalism and feminism, and what really is "the work"? They question if anyone even has the discipline anymore to truly "girl boss", and the dangers of individualism over collective action. Phoebe questions what success in entrepreneurship really looks like (privilege? access?) and Jacque shares about the integrity of business and untangling all THE STUFF. Also! A new fun, beautiful, let's dive together offering for the world from the girlies!

OTHER FUN TIDBITS: Phoebe loves a Renn Faire! WATER! Cosplay! FAIRIES! SOUND POETRY!

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The Gilded Age

Renn Faire

Peter Pan + Wendy

The Once in Future Witches

Characteristics of White Supremacy

Cosplayers Phoebe Loves:

https://www.instagram.com/nadiiife/

https://www.youtube.com/@MinjiLee

https://www.patreon.com/thecuttingroomfloor

https://www.thecut.com/2021/08/leandra-medine-says-she-always-thought-she-was-poor.html

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CW: We chat about bodily fluidy stuff on this episode, if you're a queasy babe - proceed lightly. 

Do you ever feel like...you're/we are too obsessed with your/our romantic relationships? Phoebe and Jacque discuss the mindfuck that is being a human walking around everyday with other humans, the falsities and let downs of romantic relationships, and if all of these "couples resources" are actually helping or harming us? They discuss the systems and binaries at play in romantic relationships, their own romantic relationship dynamics, queering long term partnership, and the associations of relationships to "hard work" and what we apparently gain from this badge of honor. 

OTHER FUN TIDBITS: BLOOD! FLOWERS! PISS! SELF LOVE!

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NYM Etiquette after COVID

The Gottman Institute

Esther Perel

Couples Therapy

Domestic Work History

Love is Blind

Pamela Anderson Documentary

What Capitalism Has to Do with Falling in Love by Gabes Torres

Rad Families

Flowers by Miley Cyrus

Diana Adams - Chosen Family Law Center

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Phoebe + Jacque are joined by Emily Cassel (Founder + CEO of WMNûp). They discuss being a woman in all the ways...in friendship, in business, in relationships, on the internet. Emily shares what guides her in business and life, running an ethical business as a woman, the coaching industry, and her most recent pivot to launch WMNûp. OTHER FUN TIDBITS: CULT DOCUMENTARIES! Big thank you to Emily for joining us on the pod!

Emily Cassel is the Founder of WMNûp: a vibrant ecosystem of mission-driven change-makers, trail-blazers, multidimensional risk-takers and business-starters seeking intimacy and intentional support to cultivate long term, compounding success. As a business strategist and leadership consultant, Emily’s work draws from her background in Positive Psychology, Sustainability, Women’s Leadership, Business + Entrepreneurship, and her uniquely impactful experience attending an all-women’s college. Emily is the host of the podcast Like Nobody’s Business, author of two journals: the 52-week Motivational Journal and the 90-Day Goals Journal with Rockridge Press, and has been featured on Off the Vine with Kaitlyn Bristowe, With Whit with Whitney Port, and The Priestess Podcast with Julie Parker. Her work has also been featured in The Huffington Post, The Atlantic, and Skirt Charleston. She lives in Charleston, South Carolina with her fiance (Jeff), Mini Australian Shepherd (Kai), + goofy Golden Doodle (Wilson). You can find her stress-baking delicious DF + GF treats, performing a full Broadway revue in her convertible with the top down, or swimming in the ocean after soaking up sun on the beach.

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A gift to listeners: Are you a woman who runs a business? Use code PODCAST to receive a discount for WMNûp's Annual Community Membership.

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The Vow 

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We're BACK!

The girlies are back with SEASON TWO of DYEFL!

Phoebe + Jacque discuss their break, where Season two is headed (werk, b***h), and Phoebe asks "Do you ever feel like... you want to be a stay at home girlfriend?" They discuss the choices within feminism, what a new world of work and labor would even look like, and how the TikTok trend may be onto something...

Other fun tidbits: NEW PATREON! CUTE HAIRCUTS! JACQUES ZIWE HARRY CONSPIRACY! DREAMS ABOUT HIGH SCHOOL BOYZ!

Thank you for listening to DO YOU EVER FEEL LIKE?

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Our artwork is by Simon Peng.

DYEFL is produced by Jacqueline Wills and Phoebe Taylor.

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Everything, Everywhere, All At Once

Clearspace

Ginny + Georgia

Jerrod Carmichael

Oscar Nominations

Rachel Rodgers

ALOK

Sonya Renee Taylor

Tracee Ellis Ross on We Can Do Hard Things

Ali Wong's Special: Baby Cobra

Jacque's Substack

Andrew Tate + Greta Thunberg

Elizabeth Gilbert Clip

Spare by Prince Harry

ZIWE

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The girlies celebrate SEASON ONE of Do You Ever Feel Like with a Holiday extravaganza eleganza, a wrap of their fans and favs, the good stuff this year, a year in review, plus the Do You Ever Feel Like Big Fat Quiz of 2022 where Phoebe ruins Jacqueline's life!  We will be back for season two at the end of January but for now you can find us here! 👇 Thank you so much for supporting Season One of DYEFL!!!

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Hot Chocolate

White Lotus

Everything Everywhere all at Once 

C'mon C'mon 

Great Blue Wall

Weed + mass incarceration 

Women, abortion + the midterms

Conversion therapy in Canada

Libraries/ALA 

Google Ads

Adele Album (technically 2021, but we listened throughout 2022 duh)

Harry's House

Viola Davis' Book, "Finding Me"

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This week Phoebe and Jacque are joined by the incredible Flory Huang! The gals chat all about exploring and playing through life, the problematic side of the mindfulness/burnout/rest IG carousel world, and the deep exploration and trust that comes with truly answering the creative call. Flory chats through the shifts and changes of seeking a creative life, how they listen in and trust, and how to stay committed to your "why not". OTHER FUN TIDBITS: DIVAS UNITE!

Flory (she/they) is a first generation settler of Taiwanese and Dutch ancestry. Born on unceded, ancestral and traditional Tongva Territory, she is also a settler continually learning as an uninvited guest on Musqueam, Squamish, and Tsleil-Waututh lands in the Pacific Northwest. As a proud faculty instructor at The Lab of Meditation offering trauma-informed meditation teacher training for people worldwide, she invites others to be in integrous businesses through strategic development and brand design. ⁠When not supporting others with real rest or resting herself, you’ll find her moving and sweating, reading and learning, eating with people she loves, in lengthy discussions (sometimes debates), drawing and documenting, out in the sun and ocean, exploring different cultures, and machine tattooing sentiment and sigils.

More Flory: 

The Rested Revolution

Flory Huang Studio

@the.rested.revolution

@flory.huang

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Our artwork is by Simon Peng.  

DYEFL is produced by Jacqueline Wills and Phoebe Taylor.

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Jacque asks Phoebe: Do you ever feel like... everyone is having more sex than you? Phoebe and Jacque discuss the obnoxious and very irrelevant (but also somehow still influential) question of how much sex is enough sex. They discuss how millennials are redefining what is important in their sex lives, our societal obsession with the sex lives of partnered people, and how these questions pop up in their own lives and relationships. OTHER FUN TIDBITS: Grieving Leslie Jordan! Adele!

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We were wrong. Leslie Jordan did not have a podcast! But listen to his greatness on these.

Will & Grace 

Brittney Griner

I Drink Wine Music Video by Adele

Dr. Emily Bennett

We're Having Gay Sex

Lovecast

Esther Perel 

Cosmo Article

General Social Survey

Sex in Longterm Relationships

Katrina Marie

Orgasm Gap

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ATTN: This conversation lit up a lot in Phoebe + Jacque and is definitely turning into a series. Folks out there parenting/mothering or folks out there that made the decision not to mother - please write us, leave an anchor message, dm us a voice note - whatever! We want to hear from you and your stories around becoming (or not becoming) a parent. 

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Phoebe asks: is motherhood a scam? In a maybe not that shocking SHOCKING conversation, Phoebe and Jacque discuss the perils around folks deciding to become parents. They ask the big questions around how people just "know" they want kids, how women decide to be mothers (do they even?), the privileges around such topics, and their own fears and tribulations around doing this big thing that seems literally soul crushing: being a mother. OTHER FUN TIDBITS: Phoebe isn't a morning person, dealing with tech issues when you have a pod is REAL, and more mercury retrograde conundrums. 

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Our artwork is by Simon Peng. 

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Motherhood by Sheila Heti

Pure Colour by Sheila Heti

Patriarchy

MLMs

Grit Scale by Angela Duckworth

Good Inside with Dr. Becky

Dr. Becky Episodes on We Can Do Hard Things

Adnan Syed Case

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Jacqueline asks, do you ever feel like... women are the project managers of the world? Phoebe and Jacque yell about the burdens women carry such as over responsibility for family, friendships, partnerships, jobs, and like...the world. They discuss all women are considering, thinking, planning, at any given time - and where this emotional labor started and stems from. They also ask YOU listener - when do you feel like a bad lady? OTHER FUN TIDBITS: Jacque's wedding is over finally + Phoebe took a solo trip! 

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DYEFL is produced by Jacqueline Wills and Phoebe Taylor.

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Glennon Doyle 

Women Aren't Nags - We're Just Fed Up by Gemma Hartley

Fed Up: Emotional Labor, Women, and the Way Forward by Gemma Hartley

I am the person who notices when we are running out of toilet paper

Ali Wong: Baby Cobra

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