Uncle Marv welcomes Jesse Tuttle, also known as Hackah Jak, to preview his upcoming keynote at the ASCII Edge tour in Orlando. Tuttle, a former hacker who once topped the FBI and Interpol's most wanted lists, now leads AP2T Labs, a cyber threat research and training company.

Tuttle's fascinating backstory unfolds as he recounts his journey from a curious 14-year-old hacker in 1994 to initiating what the New York Times called the "first hacker world war" in 2001. This event caused over $2 billion in damages and led to his recruitment by the FBI as an intelligence asset.

The conversation takes unexpected turns as Tuttle reveals how he learned to build databases by hacking banks and used NASA connections to distribute pirated software. He emphasizes that not all hackers are motivated by financial gain, highlighting the importance of understanding diverse threat actor profiles.

Tuttle also discusses his company's innovative use of AI and machine learning in analyzing user behavior, mentioning their patent-pending technologies rooted in his past experiences as a threat actor.

The episode provides valuable insights into the hacker mindset, the evolution of cyber threats, and the critical need for up-to-date cybersecurity awareness training. Tuttle's unique perspective as a former hacker turned defender offers listeners a rare glimpse into both sides of the cybersecurity battlefield.

=== LINKS FROM THE SHOW

1. Watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKedVeWcESc
2. ASCII Edge 2025 - https://events.ascii.com/
3. AP2T Labs - https://www.ap2tlabs.com/
4. Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Tuttle

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