Welcome to the Automation Unplugged After Show! Every week, we will take some time after we record the official episode to dig a little deeper with our guest, learn more about them, their hobbies, or frankly, anything that I think you might want to learn more about.

We just wrapped up recording show #139 featuring Michael Cogbill, Principal at REV2 Consulting. Here on the after show, Michael shares with us his top takeaways on how to approach the pre-drywall walk through phase with clients to gain their buy-in on device types and locations. He also shares a fun story about his experience working with Celine Dion and her late husband, René.

If you haven't already listened to the full interview, make sure to check out show #139 here on the podcast. Let’s jump into my conversation with Michael Cogbill.