In this episode of the AVIATE Podcast, Shaesta Waiz sits down with Lauren Lacey Haertlein, Deputy General Counsel for Policy and Regulatory at Joby Aviation. Lauren shares her unique journey from healthcare law to aviation, a career shift that stemmed from her passion for flight and a determination to follow her interests. This inspiring conversation dives into her experiences in aviation law, the impact of eVTOL technology, and the transformative role of advanced air mobility.

Lauren also reflects on her work with the Women in Aviation Advisory Board and shares her perspective on fostering inclusivity in the industry. For women aspiring to enter aviation, Lauren provides actionable advice and insights into building a strong foundation in the field.

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In this episode of the AVIATE with Shaesta, we sit down with Stephanie Goetz, a powerhouse of resilience, reinvention, and purpose. Stephanie’s journey is one of courage and transformation, navigating profound personal loss, redefining her path, and ultimately finding her passion for aviation later in life.

From her beginnings as a news anchor to her evolution into a professional pilot and mental health advocate, Stephanie shares how she found healing, strength, and fulfillment by pushing beyond the boundaries she once thought defined her.

Stephanie’s insights on embracing change, nurturing mental wellness, and breaking through self-doubt are a reminder that it’s never too late to find your calling or redefine who you are. Whether you’re in aviation or simply navigating life’s twists and turns, Stephanie’s story will inspire you to reconnect with your dreams and build a life you truly love.

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In this episode of AVIATE with Shaesta, host Shaesta Waiz welcomes Dr. Eileen A. Bjorkman, a pioneer in aviation who has flown over 700 hours in more than 25 different aircraft, led groundbreaking flight test programs, and authored books highlighting the untold stories of women in aviation. Dr. Bjorkman shares her fascinating journey, from growing up in a military family to becoming a flight test engineer, and how she navigated a male-dominated field with resilience and determination.

The conversation also touches on her latest book, Fly Girls Revolt, which tells the stories of women who fought to open doors in aviation, and explores how the industry is evolving to support women and families. This episode is packed with insights and advice for anyone interested in aviation, leadership, or breaking barriers in their career.

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In this podcast episode, aviation leader Bobbi Wells shares her experiences and insights, reflecting on her childhood in Wyoming, where her fondest memory was singing Christmas carols on a horse-drawn sleigh. Bobbi describes how her curiosity led her from logistics into aviation and emphasizes the importance of asking questions in aviation safety. She discusses the significance of diversity and inclusion, stressing the value of having diverse voices in decision-making. Bobbi highlights her role on the Women in Aviation Advisory Board and the importance of representation for dispatchers. She also calls for a cultural shift in aviation to attract and retain more women and overcome barriers faced by women in the industry. The conversation emphasizes the need for women of all backgrounds and orientations to be welcomed, improving the industry's effectiveness through diverse perspectives. Bobbi advocates for the establishment of a permanent board to continue driving progress and underscores the importance of support systems, work-life balance, grace, and self-acceptance for women in aviation. Her advice is to have courage, embrace challenges, and take bold steps, even when scared.

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Today, we have the distinct honor of speaking with Dorothy Cochrane, a true pioneer in aviation history and one of the most highly regarded curators at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum. Since joining the Smithsonian in 1977, Dorothy has been a driving force behind the preservation, research, and exhibition of aviation’s rich legacy. Her career has spanned decades of innovation and change in the aviation world, but what sets Dorothy apart is her ability to amplify the stories that have often gone unheard or underrepresented. Her leadership has helped shape some of the most influential exhibits at the museum, including the widely acclaimed "We All Fly" exhibit, which brings much-needed attention to the critical role general aviation plays in everyday life.

Throughout her career, Dorothy has not only focused on the technological achievements that define aviation but also on the personal stories that bring those achievements to life. She’s been instrumental in shining a spotlight on women in aviation, celebrating pioneers like Amelia Earhart, Anne Morrow Lindbergh, and countless other trailblazers whose legacies might otherwise have been overlooked. Her deep commitment to uncovering and showcasing these narratives has inspired generations, encouraging new talent and especially young women to reach for the skies, just as these early aviation icons did.

Dorothy’s contributions to the field have earned her numerous prestigious awards, including the Katharine Wright Trophy, which honors individuals whose work has significantly impacted aviation. Her accolades reflect not only her expertise in aviation history but also her tireless advocacy for diversity and inclusion in the industry. Through her work, she has brought forward the stories of those who broke barriers and overcame obstacles, reminding us of the importance of representation and the power of role models in aviation. In today’s conversation, we will explore Dorothy’s remarkable journey through the world of aviation, her passion for preserving these incredible stories, and the importance of making aviation history accessible to everyone. We’ll also dive into the rich history of women in aviation, a topic Dorothy has championed for decades, and discuss how these narratives continue to inspire future generations to embrace the boundless possibilities of flight.

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Dr. Rebecca Lutte, an aviation education and research expert, discusses the barriers facing women in aviation and the importance of data-driven solutions. She emphasizes the need to address negative workplace culture, including bias and harassment, as a primary barrier to recruiting, retaining, and advancing women in the industry. Dr. Lutte also highlights the importance of support structures and outreach programs for underrepresented groups. She suggests that industry and government initiatives, such as formal policies on sexual assault and harassment, can help create a more inclusive environment. Additionally, she discusses the challenges of converting student pilots to private pilots and the need for cost support and support networks. Gender disaggregated data is crucial for analyzing workforce trends and identifying challenges unique to women and minority groups in the aviation industry. It helps recognize cultural barriers and the compounded challenges faced by members of multiple underrepresented groups. The lack of data on gender, race, and ethnicity in the workforce hinders the recognition of these challenges. Companies like Boeing are leading the way by breaking down workforce data by gender, race, ethnicity, and occupational area. To attract more women to the mechanics sector, the industry needs to increase awareness of the job opportunities and provide support structures for women. Outreach efforts should focus on the under-10 age group and emphasize the cool factor of aviation. Sustaining the momentum and providing clear pathways to success are also important. More research is needed on workforce data and workplace culture to track progress and address barriers. The best advice for women in aviation is to stay curious, be willing to stretch themselves, and speak their truth loudly.

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Today on the AVIATE podcast, we are thrilled to welcome Kelly Jost, a civil engineer and principal at C&S Companies, who shares her journey and insights in the aviation industry. Kelly's passion for engineering began in her childhood in Michigan, inspired by her father's construction projects. Her fascination with aviation was sparked by a fifth-grade project on Amelia Earhart, and her commitment deepened after her first solo flight in eighth grade.

As a leader in airport planning, design, and construction, Kelly underscores the importance of standardization in airport design and highlights the need for stronger leadership, support, and flexibility to foster cultural change in the aviation industry. She emphasizes the importance of addressing sexual harassment and creating inclusive, supportive environments to attract and retain women in aviation.

In addition to her role as a board member for the Michigan Association of Airport Executives (MAAE) and the Women in Aviation Advisory Board, Kelly discusses the Women in Aviation Advisory Board report and shares her vision for implementing its recommendations. She hopes for a future where women in aviation are the norm and sees more women in leadership positions across the industry.

Join us as we dive into Kelly’s inspiring journey, her advocacy for women in aviation, and her vision for the future of the industry.

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00:00 - Introduction and Background

02:59 - Childhood Fascination and Interest in Civil Engineering and Aviation

06:43 - The Importance of Standardization in Airport Design

11:53 - Support and Flexibility for Women in Aviation

16:19 - Addressing Sexual Harassment and Creating Inclusive Environments

20:33 - The Women in Aviation Advisory Board Recommendations

27:56 - Envisioning a Future of Women in Aviation

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Kelly Jost | https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-jost-p-e-27552b55/

Shaesta Waiz | https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaestawaiz/

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In the highly anticipated launch of Season Six of the AVIATE Podcast, we’re honored to feature Lieutenant Colonel Cathyrine “Lilo” Armandie, a distinguished leader in the United States Air Force with over 1,600 flight hours and a remarkable career. Cathyrine shares her incredible journey, from her early days as an ROTC cadet to becoming a seasoned combat veteran and a passionate advocate for diversity and inclusion within the aviation sector.

This episode explores the core AVIATE themes—Acknowledge, Vocalize, Inclusion, Act, Travel, and Evolve—as Cathyrine provides an inside look at the cultural challenges of navigating male-dominated environments, the crucial need for policies that support women, and her approach to balancing a demanding military career with motherhood. Cathyrine’s honest reflections offer valuable perspectives on the shifting dynamics for women in aviation and the essential actions required to foster a more inclusive industry.

Join us for this powerful conversation as we kick off Season Six, showcasing the resilience, determination, and passion that drive success in aviation. Whether you’re within the industry or drawn to stories of leadership and transformation, this episode promises to set the tone for an inspiring season ahead.

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Cathyrine "Lilo" Armandie

Shaesta Waiz

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00:00 Intro

03:17 Introduction of Shelly Simi, a leader in aviation innovation and strategic initiatives.

10:55 Shelly’s early life in the Mississippi Delta and inspiration from crop dusters.

12:58 Transition from flight coordination at FedEx to strategic roles in aviation.

17:35 Shelly's leadership style and her contributions to industry-government collaboration.

21:17 The significance of mentorship and fostering the next generation of aviation professionals.

27:10 The importance of advancing aviation technology and safety standards.

29:59 Advocating for women in aviation and the founding of Women in Aviation International.

39:10 Reflections on career milestones and future aspirations.

45:17 Final thoughts and takeaways from Shelly’s remarkable journey.

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Shelly Simi

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