In today's Talmud pages, Avodah Zarah 32 and 33, the sages broaden their conversation about wine made by gentiles. A fascinating discussion follows, about whether or not shards from an earthenware vessel which originally held non-kosher wine may be used for other purposes. We further deepen the discussion with a personal story from our producer Josh Kross. His anecdote shares a question with today's pages: what does it mean to hold onto an object with a loaded, or controversial, history? Listen and find out.