in this conversation, Jason and Stephanie Class chat with Karl Wilder about his experiences in the adult film industry including voicing adult films and performing in the musical Hair. and his transition to becoming a writer. They discuss memorable moments from their respective careers, including performing on stage and dealing with unexpected challenges. They also touch on the importance of embracing one's true self and not being afraid to pursue unconventional paths. Karl shares insights into his writing process and the inspiration behind his books.

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