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Psi Corps is here, consent is optional, and suddenly everyone is VERY uncomfortable - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 8, “A Race Through Dark Places.”

The crew breaks down Bester’s deeply unsettling debut, the moral horror of telepath control, and why this episode quietly reframes everything we thought we knew about EarthGov. With three industry pros at the table, we analyze how JMS uses sci-fi to interrogate power, fascism, and complicity, while Gus and Ali experience the full psychic damage of this storyline for the first time.

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Three wives, a creepy ex-husband, and perhaps the biggest foot-in-mouth moment in our podcast's history - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dig into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 7, “Soul Mates.”

In this episode, the crew spirals after accidentally roasting writer Peter David before realizing his legendary status (and recent passing). We unpack the "Real Housewives of Centauri Prime" energy , why referring to people as "breeding stock" is an immediate Psi Corps red flag , and the wholesome delight of the Ivanova/Delenn hair salon scene. Jenn and Ali also analyze the difference between "omnipresent" showrunning and true collaboration. 


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Psi Corps, brainwashing, and a conspiracy that absolutely does not feel resolved - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dig into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 6, “A Spider in the Web.” What starts as a slow-burn spy thriller quietly lays down some deeply unsettling foundations for the rest of the season.

The crew unpacks Bureau 13, personality conditioning, and why this episode feels like it’s setting pins instead of knocking them down. Jenn talks TV structure and why 90s commercial-era storytelling hits differently, Gus spirals into mole-hunting paranoia, and everyone agrees that Talia White’s arc just took a dark turn. Also discussed: rising Season 2 production value, JMS gaining creative freedom, and the Ivanova-Talia subtext that the camera absolutely lingers on. No spoilers beyond this episode.

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This week on Babble On, Jenny, Gus, and Ali dig into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 5, “The Long Dark.” It’s the episode where space gets genuinely creepy, Dwight Schultz delivers an all-timer performance, and Dr. Franklin makes choices that immediately land him on everyone’s watchlist. The trio talks horror vibes, Shadow-adjacent lore, why this episode is weirdly load-bearing for the series, and how one excellent monologue is competing with some deeply uncomfortable 90s television decisions.

Jenn joins Jenny later for the full-spoiler Grey Council discussion. Also: yes, Dr. Franklin is still canceled, and no, there is still no HR in space.

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This week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 4, “A Distant Star.” It’s the episode where hyperspace gets weird, Dr. Franklin becomes the self-appointed Food Police, and Sheridan questions whether he should be running a space station… or just running laps. The crew debates whether D.C. Fontana wrote the emotional arc and JMS sprinkled in the dad jokes, why the edit feels like a Frankenstein’s monster of walk-and-talks, and how the bonfire on the bridge happened despite JMS explicitly saying “no giant flames, please.”

Also: the eternal truth that there is still no HR in space.

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Technomages, a ridiculous color-coded civil war, and the fashion statement of the century - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus discuss Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 3, "The Geometry of Shadows." It’s supposed to be a "breather" episode , but between Londo’s looming genocide prophecy and Garibaldi’s dark night of the soul, the vibes are complicated.

Jenn breaks down how a real-life broken foot changed Ivanova’s fight scenes , Gus launches an unauthorized infomercial for "Londo Hair" , and the crew tries to keep a straight face while discussing the works of Michael Moorcock. Also: Green vs. Purple chaos , Technomage lore , and why Vir is the bravest person on the station.



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Sheridan grief, goo-soaked rebirths, and Londo making the absolute worst decisions - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Season 2’s second episode, “Revelations.” From Delenn’s dramatic emergence to the deepening Shadows plotline, this one delivers character turmoil, lore drops, and far-reaching consequences.

Jenn breaks down the emotional and thematic weight of Sheridan’s storyline, Ali loses her mind over G'Kar’s prophecy streak. Jenny, meanwhile, cannot stop bringing up the goo. Also: bone crowns, ethics debates, and a surprising amount of conversation about space urchins.

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Minbari souls, Jeff-related heartbreak, and the debut of Babylon 5’s newest captain — this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus tackle the Season 2 opener, “Points of Departure.” From the massive Minbari reveal to the behind-the-scenes reasons Sinclair vanishes overnight, it’s a premiere packed with lore and emotions.

Ali spirals into soul-theory chaos, Jenn talks story structure during a lead swap, and Gus embraces Sheridan’s chaotic good energy. Also: unexpected jokes, unexpected feelings, and a whole lot of Jeff grief.

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Cocoons, conspiracies, and… traffic cones?! In this episode of Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus and guest Ean dig into the game-changing Babylon 5 Season 1 finale, “Chrysalis.” We break down Delenn’s shocking transformation, the assassination plot that flips the station on its head, and the chilling sense that the Shadows are finally moving.

Ali spirals into theories about what’s inside the cocoon, Jenn breaks down how JMS escalates a narrative into a full-on paradigm shift, and Gus argues that Londo just made the worst deal in sci-fi history. We also detour into costume symbolism, chaotic headcanon, and the moment Babble On officially lost its mind over set dressing. 🚧 

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*Note: We recorded this reaction & podcast discussion prior to the sad news of June Lockhart’s passing. In the episode, we mention her as still living at the time. June Lockhart was a beloved icon of television, and we send our love and respect to her family, friends, and fans. May her memory be a blessing. 💙*

🧠 Mercy, mind wipes, and… tentacle poker?! Jenny, Jenn, and first-timers Ali and Gus (with guest Ian!) dive into “The Quality of Mercy,” one of Babylon 5’s most chaotic and thought-provoking season one episodes.

This week’s banter includes:
• The crew losing it over Centauri “anatomy” trivia and JMS’s fever-dream writing.
• Ali declaring herself an alien anatomy expert.
• Jenn connecting mercy, morality, and Shakespeare’s Merchant of Venice.
• Gus insisting on the ethics of not whipping it out at the poker table.
• Jenny explaining the JMS lore behind mind wipes and space justice.
• Plus: June Lockhart, universal healthcare, and Londo’s questionable poker face.

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🎶 Music: “Discovery” by Alexander Nakarada