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A bomber on the loose, monks in the corridors, and Londo and G'Kar trapped in an elevator with nowhere to go — this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Gus, and Ali break down Babylon 5 Season 3 Episode 2, "Convictions." It's a standalone episode that somehow still manages to be essential viewing, and the crew gets into why.

We discuss the real-world shadow of the Oklahoma City bombing hanging over this episode, the parallel between G'Kar and the bomber as two characters with nothing left to lose, and why the Londo/G'Kar elevator scene is already one of the most talked-about moments in the series. Plus: the introduction of Brother Theo, Bruce's extremely creative use of a communicator, and a lot of appreciation for Peter Jurasik and Andreas Katsulas doing what they do best.

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New season, new ship, new Ranger, and a whole lot of trouble, this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus break down the Babylon 5 Season 3 premiere, "Matters of Honor." As Sheridan takes a risky mission beyond the station, Londo tries to manage dangerous alliances, and the shadows grow bolder, the next phase of Babylon 5 begins.

We discuss the arrival of Marcus Cole, why the White Star changes everything, Ivanova already being ten steps ahead, and how this episode brilliantly launches Season 3 with bigger stakes and sharper momentum. Jenn also shares fascinating behind-the-scenes context about Warren Keffer, studio interference, and the creative decisions that shaped the show.

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Angels, exits, and the end of Season 2 - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, Gus, and special guest Ean break down the Babylon 5 Season 2 finale, "The Fall of Night". As the Centauri-Narn conflict reaches a breaking point, the crew witnesses a massive revelation in the docking bay that changes everything for the station.

We discuss the "malicious compliance" behind the sudden exit of Warren Keffer and the network notes that put him there in the first place. Ian provides an "inside baseball" look at the production design and its ties to The Abyss , while Ali and Gus discuss the chilling significance of Londo seeing absolutely nothing during the Vorlon's big moment.

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Jack the Ripper has arrived on Babylon 5, and the Vorlons sent him - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 21, "Comes the Inquisitor."

The crew unpacks one of B5's most philosophically dense hours: ego death, the "Who are you?" vs. "What do you want?" dialectic, and what it means to act in service of something bigger than yourself. With two industry pros at the table, we dig into JMS's psychology-heavy script, the production notes behind the infamous East End/West End flub, Vir's apology scene and what a genuine "I'm sorry" actually costs you, and the Londo vs. Jack the Ripper comparison nobody expected to make - but absolutely had to.

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War crimes, velvet crimes, and the fall of an empire  - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus break down Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 20, "The Long Twilight Struggle." 

In this episode, the crew unpacks the sci-fi Hiroshima of it all and why Rifa's rhetoric sounds uncomfortably familiar, dissects Londo's intentional cough mid-speech and what it reveals about a man drowning in his own decisions, and discusses why "Citizen G'Kar" is a title that is going to mean something. Jenn drops some craft knowledge on "trigger heaping" and why this episode is simultaneously an ending and a beginning. Also: Gus was under anesthesia today and is a hero for being here.

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Monkey's paw episode, anyone? This week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2 Episode 19, "Divided Loyalties." Lyta Alexander is back, a major character is gone (kind of), and it turns out the silk pajama sleepover was never just a sleepover.

Jenn breaks down what JMS was building from the very beginning, Ali is furious and in denial, Gus almost gets canceled (again), and Jenny tries very hard not to steer too obviously while absolutely steering.

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Plagues, politics, and the price of silence - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2 Episode 18, "Confessions and Lamentations." As a devastating disease threatens to annihilate the Markab people, the crew breaks down one of the most emotional and haunting episodes of the series.


Jenn explores the episode's "Inside Baseball" production and the heavy parallels to the AIDS crisis and 1990s Hantavirus outbreak. Ali and Gus react to the shocking finality of the Markab fate, and Jenny breaks down that pivotal moment of compassion between Sheridan and Delenn.


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Centauri honor, political consequences, and one very inconvenient trauma ghost - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus break down Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 17, “Knives.” What looks like a contained character episode quickly reveals deeper themes about loyalty, identity, and the cost of power.


The crew dives into Londo’s complicated choices, Sheridan’s psychological subplot, and the structural storytelling at play in Season 2. Jenn brings the industry perspective on episodic vs serialized TV, Gus and Ali react to the emotional fallout, and everyone debates the infamous episode order conversation. Also discussed: Centauri politics, narrative setup vs payoff, and why some episodes quietly lay pipe for what’s coming next. 


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Shadows, secrets, and suspicious diplomacy - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2 Episode 16, "In the Shadow of Z'Ha'Dum." As Morden resurfaces and the Shadow War edges closer to the spotlight, the crew breaks down the episode’s major lore drops and rising political tension.

Jenn digs into the structure behind the escalating arc storytelling, Ali theorizes aggressively, Gus reacts to the character stakes, and Jenny tries not to spoil everything.

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ISN has arrived on the station, and the "truth" is looking a little bit like a hatchet job – this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ali, and Gus dive into Babylon 5 Season 2, Episode 15, “And Now For a Word”.


The crew breaks down the groundbreaking documentary-style episode that gave us our first look at the station from the outside. We discuss the terrifyingly relevant world of interstellar propaganda, the horrifying "subliminal" Psi Corps commercials, and the deep dive into Jungian psychology that had Gus and Ali questioning the very nature of humanity. With three industry pros at the table, we analyze the "60 Minutes" aesthetic, the use of early drone-camera tech, and why Sheridan’s final monologue left the entire team in tears.

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