Babble On

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Vir gets the spotlight in one of Babylon 5's funniest, strangest, and ultimately most disturbing episodes. This week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Ean, Gus, and Ali break down Babylon 5 Season 3 Episode 12, "Sic Transit Vir." 

We discuss Vir's impossible romance, Centauri culture, Londo's complicated morality, Sheridan and Delenn's almost-kiss, the episode's insect metaphor, Babylon 5's commentary on racism and dehumanization, behind-the-scenes production trivia, first-time watcher reactions, and an unusually chaotic recording session featuring mysterious microphone failures, accidental muting, and far more technical difficulties than anyone asked for.

Plus: The Grey Council spoiler section with Ean, Jenny and Jenn after the warning.

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Hostage taking, new station identity, Marcus backstory, Londo making dangerous moves, and Sheridan and Delenn getting very Princess Bride about it, this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Gus, and Ali break down Babylon 5 Season 3 Episode 11, “Ceremonies of Light and Dark.”

We discuss what comes after “Severed Dreams,” the station’s rebirth, Marcus’s survivor’s guilt, Lenier’s devotion to Delenn, Garibaldi’s anger issues, Franklin’s confession, Londo and Refa’s power struggle, Talia theories, the new uniforms, trauma, war, identity, and the extremely important wet floor sign. Plus: first-time watcher panic, longtime fan restraint, and The Grey Council spoiler section with Jenny and Jenn after the warning.

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Severed Dreams, Delenn doing the absolute most, EarthForce chaos, Mars telling Clark to get bent, and one of the biggest Babylon 5 episodes yet, this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Gus, and Ali break down Babylon 5 Season 3 Episode 10, “Severed Dreams.” It’s an action-heavy, emotionally charged episode full of impossible choices, political collapse, and the kind of payoff that makes longtime fans say, “Top 5, baby.”

We discuss Delenn and the Grey Council, Sheridan drawing a line in the sand, Major Ryan, EarthForce fighting EarthForce, ISN under pressure, Mars in revolt, and why this episode’s pacing, effects, and writing still hit so hard. Plus: the General Hague behind-the-scenes drama, JMS being a witch, Communications Twink doing treason, industry talk about scenes versus shots, Talia theories, and everyone having extremely normal feelings about Delenn.

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Martial law, Night Watch nonsense, Lady Morella prophecy, and Majel Barrett bringing full sci-fi royalty energy, this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Gus, and Ali break down Babylon 5 Season 3 Episode 9, “Point of No Return.” It’s an episode full of EarthGov escalation, Zack Allan stress, Garibaldi betrayal trauma, and the kind of political storyline that feels a little too real

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We discuss Majel Barrett’s Star Trek legacy, Babylon 5 and Deep Space Nine fandom rivalry, Londo and Vir’s ominous future, the Night Watch finally getting played, Sheridan’s very Jeff-like loophole, Narn security upgrades, Garibaldi’s team issues, and why this episode is absolutely one of the big ones. Plus: Talia theories, propaganda brain-hacking, Team Zip Then Fast follow-up, Toshiro Mifune Narn, betrayal trauma, and the eternal question of whether anyone is ever immune to fascist nonsense.


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Shadow ships, EarthGov lies, a very suspicious mission to Jupiter, and the official arrival of Babble On merch, this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Gus, and Ali break down Babylon 5 Season 3 Episode 8, “Messages from Earth.” It’s an episode full of Shadow War setup, Night Watch anxiety, Sheridan and Delenn being extremely not subtle, and the kind of political escalation that feels a little too real.

We discuss Dr. Mary Kirkish, IPX, Psi Corps, Ganymede, the White Star’s very dramatic trip through Jupiter, Zack Allan’s bad armband choices, Garibaldi’s suddenly relevant backstory, Marcus Cole’s whole deal, and whether this episode is less a banger on its own and more the rock that starts the avalanche. Plus: Team Fast and Then Zip, Team Zip Then Fast, Big Tentacle Energy, no HR in space, martial law discourse, symbiosis biology, and the eternal question of whether Marcus wandered in from a fantasy show.

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A creepy Downbelow mystery, Marcus being extremely Marcus, and spine worms that should absolutely not be shortened into a portmanteau, this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Gus, and Ali break down Babylon 5 Season 3 Episode 7, “Exogenesis.” It’s an episode full of unsettling alien biology, awkward flirting, Ranger secrets, and one very memorable reminder that not every Season 3 episode can be a banger.

We discuss the Vindrizi, Duncan’s “Flowers for Algernon” arc, Marcus and Ivanova’s chaotic almost-date energy, Corwin’s awkward charm, Franklin’s questionable instinct to touch alien things, and JMS’s own mixed feelings about the episode. Plus: theater ghosts, the Scottish play, Communications Twink, butt-link discourse, haunted bathrooms, phone cases, and the worst movies people have tried to make out to.

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A dangerous new drug, Bester being Bester, and G’Kar having the kind of vision that can change a whole life, this week on Babble On, Jenny, Gus, Ali, and guest Andrew Rappo break down Babylon 5 Season 3 Episode 6, “Dust to Dust.” It’s an episode full of Psi Corps menace, Narn pain, Centauri guilt, and one of G’Kar’s most important turning points so far.


We discuss Bester’s return, Dust as both drug and weapon, Garibaldi’s uneasy team-up with the Psi Corps, Vir’s visit home from Minbar, Londo being forced to face what he’s done, and G’Kar’s profound encounter with something much bigger than himself. Plus: Sparkle Coke, suspicious security guards, sticky holy books, Night Watch vibes, and Kosh doing what Kosh does.


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A political officer, a very alarming Ministry of Peace, and Ivanova taking a trip through the Great Machine, this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Gus, and Ali break down Babylon 5 Season 3 Episode 5, “Voices of Authority.” It’s an episode full of propaganda, power plays, and warning signs that Earth is getting scarier by the minute.

We discuss Julie Musante’s deeply unsettling arrival, Sheridan trying very hard not to be seduced by the government, Zack’s troubling Night Watch choices, Draal’s dramatic return, Marcus and Ivanova’s extremely shippable banter, and the discovery that the Shadows may have been involved in President Santiago’s assassination. Plus: First Ones, telepaths, Morden’s voice, the perfect episode title, and Ali enjoying being right.

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A haunted monk, a returning Lyta Alexander, and some deeply unsettling questions about memory, punishment, faith, and forgiveness, this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Gus, and Ali break down Babylon 5 Season 3 Episode 4, “Passing Through Gethsemane.” It’s a quiet episode on the surface, but emotionally, it hits like a freight train.

We discuss Brother Edward’s story, Brother Theo’s impossible compassion, Delenn and Garibaldi’s debate over justice, and why “death of personality” gets even more disturbing the longer you sit with it. Plus: Lyta’s very weird Vorlon situation, Valen lore, Adam Nimoy’s direction, Brad Dourif being brilliant, and Ali having a lot of very understandable feelings about forgiveness.

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So many plots, one very annoying probe, and a Londo who is very much reaping what he sows - this week on Babble On, Jenny, Jenn, Gus, and Ali break down Babylon 5 Season 3, Episode 3, "A Day in the Strife." 

We debate whether the alien probe plotline earned its place in an already packed episode, dig into what the crew actually wanted more of (G'Kar's situation on the station, Vir's departure to Minbar, Franklin's quietly escalating stims problem), and appreciate a small but beautifully played scene between Delenn and Londo that says more than it seems to.

Also: a serious conversation about what 22-episode seasons meant for working actors, the return of a familiar face under very different prosthetics, and a kangaroo biology tangent that made complete sense at the time.

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