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- Working for Anna Wintour & How Vogue Really Picks Its Cover Stars (with Jill Demling)
Jill Demling started as Anna Wintour's assistant in 1998, around the same time as Lauren Weisberger, who went on to write The Devil Wears Prada. Anna promoted Jill to entertainment editor, and she spent the next 18 and a half years deciding who got the cover of Vogue. She reveals which cover Anna wouldn't let her forget, how Beyoncé got her first Vogue cover, and why Angelina Jolie raided Gwyneth Paltrow's rack.
Jill now hosts the Going Rogue podcast. Check it out on Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/going-rogue/id1814440700YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@UCifqLV2sQB7b9WufQimRyqwAnd Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/7CIDU8Gib1FRvscacNw4SRCHAPTERS00:00 Introduction02:30 Anna's "next September" test08:00 Egg sandwiches, voicemails & Burger Heaven milkshakes12:45 Lauren Weisberger & the real Emily18:30 What The Devil Wears Prada gets wrong22:30 Why celebrities replaced models on covers33:30 How Beyoncé landed her first Vogue cover41:00 Photo approval & Beyoncé's no-interview cover
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50 min - The Rise of Fashion Slop (with Sam Sanders)
Amy recently joined The Sam Sanders Show to talk about the rise of AI slop in fashion. Thank you to Sam and his team for allowing Back Row to republish the interview here!
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Even the fashion industry can’t escape AI slop.
Fast fashion brands are using AI to pump out new looks and trends, and speed up production at unsustainable rates. It’s a business model that relies much more on algorithmic data than human design. Chances are you’ve even seen plenty of these products in your social media feeds.
Sam chats with fashion journalist Amy Odell, host of the ‘Back Row’ podcast, about AI’s influence in the industry and how we can all be better consumers. Plus, is high fashion on life support? Amy also breaks down the perils of luxury shopping today.
The Sam Sanders Show is a production of KCRW and Sam Sanders Productions.
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33 min - Inside Kim Kardashian's World with Her Biographer Jonathan Van Meter
Jonathan Van Meter spent five years inside Kim Kardashian's world for his new biography, Citizen Kim: The Woman Who Created the Future. He talks about what her rarefied world of fame and wealth is really like, her childhood front-row seat to the O.J. Simpson trial, and how Kanye West got her into the Met Gala. Plus: what Jonathan could and couldn't learn about how the sex tape was released, and whether Kim is laying the groundwork to run for political office.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:00 How Jonathan Got Five Years of Access
05:30 Inside Kim Kardashian's House (and Her 24 Staffers)
12:00 Kim Air: Kim's Private Jet
30:30 Kim and the O.J. Simpson Trial
40:30 The Kim Kardashian Sex Tape
45:30 The Paris Robbery
48:00 Kanye, Anna Wintour & the Met Gala
55:00 Will Kim Run for Office?
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Edited by Chrissi Harris.
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1 hr 3 min - The Swan: Inside Reality TV's Most Brutal Makeover Show (with Director Erin Lee Carr)
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Referenced in this episode:Facelift confessions, part 1: https://www.backrow.net/p/facelift-confessions-part-1-the-brutal-realities-of-getting-work-done
Facelift confessions, part 2: https://www.backrow.net/p/facelift-confessions-part-2-expect-an-emotional-toll
In 2004, Fox turned plastic surgery into primetime entertainment. The Swan reality show gave contestants about $200,000 worth of surgery each, put them on crash diets, banned mirrors for three months, and then put them in a beauty pageant. Nine million people watched. Erin Lee Carr, director of 'Mommy Dead and Dearest' and 'Britney vs Spears,' goes back to the women 20 years later in her hit Hulu documentary, The Swan: Behind the Mirror — and tells Amy what the documentary couldn't.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction
04:45 Getting the Swans to talk again
10:00 "I almost died for reality television"
19:30 How much choice did they have? "1%"
22:45 Starvation diets and spoonfuls of peanut butter
26:00 The nude photos Dr. Haworth kept
28:50 The $5 million contract
36:50 "Would you do it again?"
40:00 A classic Anna Wintour story
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44 min - Fashion Month Awards, Spring 2027: Dior's Slump, Chanelmania Continues, and Galliano Fallout (with Dana Thomas) [TEASER]
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For pod ONLY, sign up in Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/back-row-with-amy-odell/id1843400835) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/0wpDOgcuWKjpH9WxklNqI4).The spring 2027 shows just wrapped in Paris, a year after the "Great Reset" brought new creative directors to Chanel, Dior, and many more. Amy is joined by Dana Thomas, New York Times bestselling author of Deluxe, Gods and Kings and Fashionopolis, to hand out Fashion Month Awards.They get into John Galliano's PR rehab after the canceled Met show, who's having the biggest sophomore slump, and more.The full episode for Premium subscribers includes awards for Best Runway Stunt and Best Overall, plus analysis of John Galliano's weak Zara launch and Virginie Viard's explosive book.
CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction04:30 Biggest sophomore slump10:45 Best show nobody talked aboutLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
19 min - Stop Impulse Buying: How Fashion Month Keeps You Broke (with Mrs. Dow Jones)
Mrs. Dow Jones (Haley Sacks) on how to stop impulse buying and why fashion month keeps you broke. Part One of two.
For part two — about Birkins and fashion's play to woo the wealthiest shoppers — get a Premium subscription to Back Row: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe. Save three months on an annual subscription.Or sign up in Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/back-row-with-amy-odell/id1843400835) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/0wpDOgcuWKjpH9WxklNqI4)Haley Sacks, aka @MrsDowJones, joins Amy to break down how fashion month keeps us stuck in a cycle of broke. Every season the same trend gets planted on the runway, in your feed, and on influencers, and within two weeks a cheaper version shows up at Zara.Haley talks about how to stop impulse buying, why luxury goods are so expensive, and what it was like to grow up in one of the world's wealthiest neighborhoods.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction
01:30 How fashion month keeps us in a cycle of broke
04:00 From the runway to Zara in two weeks
08:00 Buy fewer, better things
10:00 How to stop impulse buying
16:00 The luxury pyramid and the $690 keychain
20:00 Is any luxury actually worth it?
22:00 Hunting a sold-out clutch with an AI agent
25:30 Haley's years as an Upper East Side nanny
📺 SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row Newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe📷 Follow Back Row on Instagram: @backrow📷 Follow Amy on Instagram: @instamyodell
Follow Haley Sacks📷 Follow Haley on Instagram: @mrsdowjones
📖 Buy Haley's book, Future Rich Person: https://link.amazon/B07xqeKEx🎙️
🎙️Follow Haley's Financial Tea podcast on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/financial-tea-with-mrs-dow-jones/id1860939850
🎙️ Follow Haley's Financial Tea podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/58anKIbkGzd5MkI3v0BjY2
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33 min - Meghan Markle Deep Dive, Part One: From Struggling Actress to Meeting Harry
Harry and Meghan are back in the UK, six years after leaving the royal family. In the first part of Back Row's deep dive into Meghan Markle, Amy and former Us Weekly and Hello! editor Justin Ravitz — who has interviewed Prince Harry and worked with the couple's team — trace Meghan's story from her Los Angeles childhood to the night she met Harry.
Part two is available to Back Row Premium subscribers.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
09:00 Meghan's Los Angeles childhood
12:30 Age 11: taking on Procter & Gamble
16:15 Briefcase No. 24 on Deal or No Deal
22:45 Landing Suits
30:00 The Tig blog and Meghan's Goop dream
35:30 Social climbing and Soho House
43:30 Humanitarian ambitions and meeting Harry
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Buy The Palace Papers by Tina Brown: https://link.amazon/B02EAsx6X
Follow Back Row: @backrow · Follow Amy: @instamyodell · Follow Justin: @jaydubargh
Edited by Chrissi Harris.
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51 min - Fur Is Out of Fashion. Is Wool Next?
PJ Smith, director of fashion policy for Humane World for Animals (formerly the Humane Society), has spent almost 20 years getting companies from Gucci to Net-a-Porter to go fur-free.
Now that most top fashion brands have sworn off fur, is wool the next big target for animal welfare activists? PJ talks about why, thanks to LVMH, the fur fight isn't quite over, how he got brands to change their mind about fur, and what's next.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:30 Why fur-free NYFW is historic
08:00 How Humane World actually changes brands' minds
18:30 Fur farming down 85% — the numbers
22:30 PETA vs. H&M: the wool protests
25:30 Is wool humane? Mulesing explained
46:30 Exotic skins: the next target
52:00 PJ's biggest lesson after 20 years
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Edited by Chrissi Harris.
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58 min - Fashionphile's Founder on How to Spot a Superfake Birkin (with Sarah Davis)
Superfakes have never been better and counterfeiters have never been smarter — so how can consumers buy secondhand luxury with confidence?
Sarah Davis started Fashionphile on eBay in 1999, while she was in law school. Resale has exploded since: Her company now employs more than 350 people and authenticates roughly 1,500 luxury bags a day. Sarah reveals how she turned luxury authentication into an almost CIA-like operation, what gives away a fake Birkin bag, and how a $35,000 machine can tell if a Cartier Love bracelet is real or not.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:00 Law school, eBay, and the Fashionphile origin story
15:00 A real Chanel, a fake one — can you tell?
21:00 Fake bags bought at real stores
23:30 "Your dupe isn't cute"
26:30 The $75 fee that killed the counterfeits
29:30 The $35,000 machine that catches fake Birkins
44:30 Where resale goes next
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Follow Back Row: @backrow · Follow Amy: @instamyodell · Follow Sarah: @justsarahdavis · Shop Fashionphile: @fashionphile
Edited by Chrissi Harris.
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50 min - The Trend Forecaster Who Coined "Vibe Shift" on What Comes Next (with Sean Monahan)
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Trend forecaster Sean Monahan coined the "vibe shift" five years ago to describe the unease millennials felt coming out of the pandemic. Of all the terms Monahan has coined — from "normcore" to the "boom boom aesthetic" — the vibe shift may have been the stickiest. He and Amy revisited his predictions from five years ago and discuss what he got right and wrong.Monahan offers predictions on whether smart glasses will take; where rage bait is heading; the future of "flexing"; where the Met Gala goes from here; and what luxury fashion has to do to recover.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction
03:00 The boom boom aesthetic and the '80s that weren't
06:00 Why crypto killed streetwear
08:30 Normcore, and the anxiety behind it
19:00 Did tackiness give way to taste?
24:00 Smart glasses, glassholes and surveillance
38:00 Rage bait and the clipping economy
47:30 'The Devil Wears Prada 2' and Jeff Bezos
1:04:30 How does luxury fashion recover?
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