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- A Stylist to Billionaires on How the .01 Percent Really Shop
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For podcast content only, go Premium on Apple or Spotify.Joy Cioci has been in fashion for 23 years — first with her own ready-to-wear and bridal brand, and for the past six years, as a private stylist to some of the wealthiest families in the country.She joins Amy to talk about what that job is actually like: how she pulls $80-90K worth of merchandise on loan for a single client, why some of her clients refuse to play the Hermès "game," and why women spending $1.5 million a year on clothes have no idea what just dropped at Chanel.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction
4:00 Who Joy's clients actually are
9:30 How pulling merchandise on loan from stores works
11:00 Inside an $80-90K shopping trip
18:00 What ultra-wealthy people actually want from their wardrobe
21:00 Finding rare pieces no one else has
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📸 Follow Joy on Instagram: @joycioci
🛍️ Shop Joy Cioci: https://joycioci.com/
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24 min - Phia's Latest Scandal: Is Phoebe Gates's Startup in Trouble?
Lawyer and The Fashion Law founder Julie Zerbo makes her Back Row pod debut to discuss the latest Phia scandal. The startup, founded by Bill Gates's daughter Phoebe Gates and her Stanford roommate Sophia Kianni, was just found to be taking credit for affiliate sales it did not drive. People are calling it "fraud" but is it, really? Can the Gates name and a slew of celeb founders help them sail through this unscathed?
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
02:32 Phia's origin story and Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kiani's Stanford beginnings
09:16 The first scandal: Fortune's report on Phia's data collection
16:17 The second scandal: Bloomberg's cookie-stuffing investigation
19:18 Explaining cookie stuffing — and the Honey/PayPal lawsuits
27:23 Did Phia's investors do proper due diligence?
36:22 Could this be fraud? The legal answer
43:15 Does Phia's celebrity halo make it bulletproof?
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50 min - Fall 2026 Couture Awards: Dangerous Shoes, Hat Wars, and Wedding Dresses
Veteran fashion journalist Dana Thomas returns for Fall 2026 couture awards! We talk about the hat wars at Dior, the wildest shoes, and the Chanel chicken bag that seems like it can't carry more than a pill or two.
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(save three months on an annual subscription) to access paywalled podcasts AND all newsletter stories.For podcast access only, sign up in Apple Podcasts or Spotify.CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
03:18 What "couture" actually means
08:08 Award: Most Viral Front Row Celebrity
10:49 Award: Best Front Row Celebrity
13:37 Award: Best Couture Handiwork
16:58 Award: Best Shoes
20:18 Award: Best Bags
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26 min - 13 Biggest Questions About Taylor Swift's Wedding
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Taylor Swift married Travis Kelce at Madison Square Garden — and nobody's seen the photos yet. Will Vogue get them? Will anyone? Amy Odell is joined by veteran celebrity journalist Justin Ravitz (former Executive Editor at Us Weekly and Rolling Stone) to count down 13 burning questions about the wedding of the year — 13, of course, because it's Taylor's lucky number.From the Dior couture ceremony looks to the guest list chaos (Zadie Smith? Wayne Gretzky? No Kardashians?) to whether this whole thing might end up as a theatrical release, Amy and Justin go through it all.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:50 #13 – What did she get talked out of?
06:23 #12 – What did Travis Kelce wear?
10:52 #11 – How close were they with their guests, really?
22:08 #10 – What was in the guests' NDAs?
25:33 #9 – Who leaked the wedding photos?
28:19 #8 – Were there religious elements? Was Adam Sandler ordained?
30:45 #7 – Did anyone try to slip them a gift?
37:27 #6 – Were there brand or corporate sponsors?
38:59 #5 – What were her cats doing?
40:54 #4 – Whose idea was the TT logo?
42:22 #3 – What celebrities were invited and said no?
44:57 #2 – Who was deliberately not invited?
51:59 #1 – Will the wedding be a theatrical release?
58:47 Final thoughts
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1 hr 3 min - What 'Love Story' Got Wrong About Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and JFK Jr.'s Final Days
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RoseMarie Terenzio and Liz McNeil — authors of JFK Jr.: An Intimate Oral Biography — return to the Back Row podcast in honor of Love Story's likely Emmy nominations. Terenzio assisted JFK Jr. at George magazine, and McNeil has covered him at People since the 90s, so they know what the show creators don't.
We cover what we didn't get to last time: Daryl Hannah's bombshell New York Times op-ed, what the show got right and wrong about Carolyn Bessette's distress over the paparazzi, the plane crash, and whether Jack Schlossberg is the next JFK Jr.
Chapters:
00:00 — Intro
04:00 — The actor who played JFK Jr. called RoseMarie
08:30 — Daryl Hannah's bombshell NYT op-ed
14:30 — The wedding: how reporters found out
23:30 — Was Carolyn really depressed and homebound?
28:00 — The plane crash: what actually happened
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32 min - From Purses to... Pot?!
***SUPPORT THIS INDEPENDENT SHOW by subscribing to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe
Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription to access paywalled podcasts and all newsletter stories.***Get 15 percent off Edie Parker with the code AMY15: https://edie-parker.com/Brett Heyman launched Edie Parker as a luxury handbag business. Her acrylic clutches became a hit with Met Gala-going celebrities. Despite her success with accessories, she decided to pivot to a uniquely challenging industry: legal cannabis.She talks about what she learned working in Gucci PR during the Tom Ford era, why she entered the cannabis business, and the stigma she's still fighting.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction
01:30 From Gucci PR to Founding Edie Parker
07:30 The Kate Hudson Met Gala Bag That Started It All
11:00 Why She Pivoted to Cannabis
13:00 Why You Have to Be Vertically Integrated in Every State
15:00 The Stripes That Are "Too Appealing to Children"
20:30 What Trump's Rescheduling Order Actually Changes
28:00 Celebrity Campaigns: Pat Cleveland, Gabby Windey, and More
35:30 Why No Institutional Investor Will Touch Cannabis
39:30 Did the Cannabis Pivot Scare Off Handbag Customers?
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45 min - How Plastic Surgery Went Off the Rails [TEASER]
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As the founding editor of beauty magazine Allure, Linda Wells has seen it all, from the dawn of La Mer to the current age of plastic surgery overload. Now the editor of AirMail Look, she's been covering the craziest procedures, from rib-cracking and reshaping to $500k facelifts.
She discusses how plastic surgery has gone completely off the rails — and where this wild trend is going.
CHAPTERS:
01:15 – Beauty Trends of the 1980s
03:45 – The Wildest Trends in 2026
08:15 – The Growing Visibility of Plastic Surgery
15:05 – Why Surgeons Are Hunting for New Procedures
17:30 – The Sport of Celebrity Speculation
20:25 – Facelift Prices Are Up 400%
23:45 – The Risks of an International Operation
26:50 – Subscribe to Listen to the Full Episode!
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28 min - Emergency Gwyneth Paltrow Pod!
It started with turkey meatballs and ended with an endorsement deal that led the internet to call her "Gwynicide." Gwyneth Paltrow has had quite a slew of viral moments this month.
I sat down with branding expert and sociologist Ana Andjelic — CMO, author of the Sociology of Business newsletter, and host of the Hitmakers podcast — to talk about what this means (if anything) for Brand Gwyneth.CHAPTERS:
00:00 – Introduction
01:00 – The Turkey Meatballs and the Arugula Meme
05:30 – Inside the Jade Egg Era of Goop
09:30 – The Trae Stephens Interview and the AI Weapons Controversy
18:00 – The 51 Park Israeli Real Estate Ad and the Backlash
21:00 – The Three Pillars of the Gwyneth Brand
24:30 – Is Goop Still Relevant?
26:00 – Why Goop Kitchen Is Struggling in New York
31:00 – Is Gwyneth an Asset or a Liability Now?
34:00 – Can Kinship Ventures Actually Succeed?
📰 SUBSCRIBE to the Back Row Newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribeAmy's Gwyneth book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Gwyneth/Amy-Odell/9781668005774
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📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ana_andjelic/
↳ Sociology of Business: https://andjelicaaa.substack.com/
🎙️ Hitmakers podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/3pmW3iyjF9pl65QgVcabPK
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37 min - Your Clothes Are Full of Chemicals. Here's What You Need to Know.
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Frances Solá-Santiago is a reporter for The New York Times's Wirecutter product review site, where her whole job is to test clothing and interview experts about how to find the best stuff for the best value. She's done extensive research into which chemicals sneak into our clothes — and what we, as consumers, need to know about them. In this episode, she reveals how we can shop consciously, some of her favorite picks for bags and clothes, and much more.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:30 How Wirecutter Actually Tests Clothes
06:00 Does Higher Price Mean Better Quality?
09:00 Vintage vs. New Coach Bags — What the Lab Found
10:00 Why Everyone Is Suddenly Worried About Their Clothes
12:00 PFAS Explained — What Forever Chemicals Are
16:00 Who's Most at Risk — You, Garment Workers, or the Planet?
21:30 Which Certifications Can You Actually Trust?
25:30 Health Washing Is the New Greenwashing
35:00 The Frankie Shop Blazer Test
39:30 Why Going 100% Natural Isn't a Guarantee
41:00 Where Regulation Is Headed
49:30 Is Dry Cleaning Safe?
Follow Frances Solá-Santiago
📰 The Wirecutter (NYT) - https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/authors/frances-sola-santiago/
📸 Follow Frances on Instagram: @fransolasantiago
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53 min - Inside 'The Devil Wears Prada 2' Press Tour with Meryl Streep's Stylist
***SUPPORT THIS INDEPENDENT SHOW by subscribing to the Back Row newsletter: https://www.backrow.net/subscribe
Go Premium and save three months on an annual subscription to access paywalled podcasts and all newsletter stories.***Celebrity stylist Micaela Erlanger joined me on the Back Row podcast to talk about dressing Meryl Streep for The Devil Wears Prada 2 press tour. Just as that winds down, she's getting ready to dress Lupital N'yongo for The Odyssey press tour.How does she do it? What goes into these viral press tours? A whole lot more than picking out pretty dresses.CHAPTERS:
01:02 – The Craziest Moments from The Devil Wears Prada 2 Press Tour
05:10 – Her Strategy for Styling Meryl Streep
11:05 – Dressing the Actor vs. the Character
12:50 – Meryl’s J. Crew Cerulean Sweater
19:20 – Micaela’s “Meta Dressing Approach”
24:20 – Collaborating with Anne Hathaway and Emily Blunt
26:55 – Getting Brands to Open the Archives
34:35 – Fashion Emergencies on the DWP2 Tour
35:50 – Styling Lupita Nyong'o for The Odyssey
40:20 – Crafting a Moodboard
44:50 – Micaela’s Advice to Aspiring Stylists
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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/micaela/?hl=en
Website: https://micaelaerlanger.com/
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